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Searching your Ancestors in Italy - Find my GGF birth Certificate Genova

marianodavid - 01 Gen 2017 - 20:27
Oggetto: Find my GGF birth Certificate Genova
Hi! I'm looking for my GGF birth certificate. His name was Bartolome Romairone. According to his death certificate, he was born in Genova in August 9th of 1873. He could have been born in 1872 ( that's according to his marriage certificate) but we don't know in which Genova's comune. Lazaro Romairone and Maria Cambiaso were his parents. Maria Cambiaso's parents were Giuseppe Cambiaso and Rosa Canepa ( I have Maria's death certificate). I've written unsuccesfylly to a couple of comunes. Also I've try twice to hire someone who could help me. I've read that when you don't know the Italian comune, you could search in Registro di Leva and census. Is that wright? How could I search for those documents in Genova? Should I send a letter? Thanks!
ery1 - 02 Gen 2017 - 00:50
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Hi and welcome to this forum! Smile

You could write a letter or an e-mail to Diocesan Archive of Genova (for the attention of Don Paolo Fontana) to request a copy of his baptismal act, giving all the data you have:
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Otherwise you can ask State Archive of Genova if they can look for you in military records as Liste di leva (but time will be long because of staff shortages):
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For censuses (years 1808, 1827, 1856 and 1871) you can contact Historical Archive of commune of Genova:
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Other solution (in case of negative reply from Diocesan Archive) is to write to all the parishes of Genova, here's a list (to see it copy and paste the link below into the address bar):
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If you want, let us know about developments.
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Erica
ery1 - 02 Gen 2017 - 01:25
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marianodavid ha scritto:
His name was Bartolome Romairone

His name should be Bartolomeo because Bartolome doesn't exist in Italy.

Romairone was also the name of an hamlet of Genova, but now remains only a street "Via Romairone", so called from the name of an old family, in Pontedecimo district.
See here:
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Erica
marianodavid - 02 Gen 2017 - 03:08
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Thank you vey much Erica!! I'll try everything you said! I will let you know about my research
marianodavid - 23 Ago 2017 - 05:16
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Hi! Sadly I still haven't found my GGF birth certificate. There is a woman in Chile trying to find out something about them ( they first arrived in Chile then came to Argentina). I've found Lots of Romairone, Canepa and Cambiaso in Pontedecimo I sent a mail but they told me he wasnt born there
marianodavid - 23 Ago 2017 - 05:42
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As I have unsuccessfully looked in all the Genova's comune( at least those who appears at familysearch), I think he could have been born in Savona. In which comune would you start looking?
mmogno - 23 Ago 2017 - 11:38
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A quali comuni hai scritto?
marianodavid - 23 Ago 2017 - 18:20
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Ho scritto solo per mettere dove ho avuto un indizio come il comune di Genoa, Savona, Ceranesi, Sampierdarena e Pontedecimo. Da Ceranesi non rispondevano. Penso di aver cercato nel resto del comune utilizzando familysearch.
mmogno - 23 Ago 2017 - 22:30
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Hai provato a cercare su Antenati?
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Prova i cognomi Romairone, Cambiaso e Canepa qui
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mimoalessandro - 24 Ago 2017 - 09:50
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May I ask you in addition what is the name of Bartolomeo's wife?
marianodavid - 24 Ago 2017 - 18:44
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Sure, he got married in Argentina in 1892 with Mercedes Díaz.
ery1 - 24 Ago 2017 - 21:03
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Hi,
you can also check Alessandria province area, because it's very near to Genova.
I've found some Romairones in Gavi (and his hamlet Monterotondo), Parodi Ligure and Bosio communes.

Here's a letter template for Civil Status Office (Servizi Demografici) of Gavi - you should request a "copia integrale dell'atto di nascita":
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Contact details of Gavi (see "Servizi demografici"):
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Contact details of Parodi Ligure:
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Contact details of Bosio (see "Ufficio demografici, stato civile, elettorale e cimitero"):
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Regards,
Erica
marianodavid - 24 Ago 2017 - 21:59
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Thanks to you all!!
sonia67 - 25 Ago 2017 - 02:22
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Hi Mariano,
No se si ya lo habías visto, estos son los Romairone en la pagina del Censo Argentina 1895.
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Según este documento se puede suponer que
Lazzaro Romairone y Maria Cambiaso con el hijo Bartolomeo (16 años ) emigran a Chile aprox en el 1878,
en Chile nacen Elena en el 1879 y Teofilo en el 1881. (son hijos de Lazzaro y Maria?) Buscaron los certificados de nacimiento en Chile?
Bartolomé llega en Argentina (pienso por frontera de tierra de Chile a Mendoza? aprox el 1892 o antes (se esposa en el 1892 en Mendoza?)
En el 1894 aprox nace su hijo Salvador en Mendoza.
En el 1895 con ellos viven en Mendoza, los hermanos de Bartolomeo y la madre (Maria Cambiaso) que en el 1895 con 46 años es Viuda
Lazzaro fallece en Chile o en Mendoza entre el 1881 y el 1895 (el certificado de muerte debería decir donde nació)

En el certificado de fallecimiento de la madre Maria indica donde nació?
marianodavid - 25 Ago 2017 - 04:02
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Hola Sonia! Si Teófilo y Elena son hermanos de Bartolomeo, en la partida de defuncion de Elena solo figuran el nombre de sus padres. Según mi familia, después después de fallecido Lázaro en Chile ( hace un tiempo estoy buscando las partidas de Chile) en 1881 aproximadamente se establecen en Mendoza donde años después se casa Bartolomeo. Lamentable en todas las partidas que tengo ( matrimonio y defunción de Bartolomeo, defunción de su madre María Cambiaso) solo señalan el país de la nacionalidad, no la Comuna.
marianodavid - 25 Ago 2017 - 04:13
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De todas las comunas que busque de Génova, por lejos fue en Pontedecimo en donde encontré mayor coincidencia en cuántos a los apellidos e incluso nombres , María Cambiaso, Rosa Canepa y Giuseppe Cambiaso se ve que eran nombres muy comunes por la cantidad que encontré, incluso hallé a un Bartolomeo Romairone. Pero de la Comuna me respondieron que no había nacido allí ni en San Quirico ( ahora están unidos) , que investigue en Ceranesi o Campomorone. Creo que Savona y Alessandria son buenas opciones.
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