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Searching your Ancestors in Italy - Translation please

nmgarza811 - 21 Mar 2015 - 21:54
Oggetto: Translation please
Hi! I am new to this site and very excited. I have been researching my family from the Veneto and have been finding images of vital records, but because of my difficulty with the handwriting and the lack of Italian I have had a hard time getting the information from them. I appreciate your help in finally being able to start piecing the puzzle together. Thank you in advance. I will try not to take advantage and only post one at a time.

The name is Francesca Poletto

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Anonymus - 22 Mar 2015 - 08:20
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Welcome to this forum!
Here are the relevant information in the record:

Francesca Emma Poletto was born July 7 1875 (the birth was recorded on the 10th).
Father: Luigi Poletto 47yo, mechanician
Mother:Teresa Basso, housewife

a side note states she died in Venezia on Feb 18 1951
nmgarza811 - 23 Mar 2015 - 11:14
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Thank you! Should I post additional requests as a different post or continue on this one?
Anonymus - 23 Mar 2015 - 11:30
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Go ahead on this one
nmgarza811 - 23 Mar 2015 - 12:03
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Wonderful! This one is for Francesco Poletto. And again, I want to thank you for your help. I have scrolled through 1000s of records and have been keeping a spreadsheet, but have had a hard time getting them looked at...even from family that know Italian.
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Anonymus - 23 Mar 2015 - 12:14
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Francesco Giuseppe Luigi Tarcisio Poletto was born in Venezia on Aug 6 1906, his father was Innocente Poletto, aged 40, naval mechanician, living in Bardonecchia, and the mother was Antonia Sossich
nmgarza811 - 24 Mar 2015 - 11:06
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What a wonderful name Innocente is! If you don't mind another, this is one for Romeo Poletto. I really appreciate this as I am trying to get as much information as I can before my mother becomes very ill from her cancer....she has taken a sudden interest in my research. This is so incredibly generous of you.
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Anonymus - 24 Mar 2015 - 11:22
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Romeo Ferruccio Poletto was born in Venezia on Sept 5 1906, his father was Antonio Poletto, aged 34, blacksmith, living in Dolo, and the mother was Teresa Capriani

All the birth I have translated so far are related to Poletto's not belonging to the same family. Which are the criteria you have to determine if a person belongs to your tree?
nmgarza811 - 24 Mar 2015 - 11:44
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Honestly, we don't know anything beyond the names of my great grandparents on the Poletto side. So as I have been scanning through the records on familysearch.org I have been keeping tracking of the 3 main names I have been looking for. I am curious to see what other Polettos I can connect such as siblings. Also, my cousin's father is a Poletto and we are trying to figure out how he is connected to my grandmother. Big puzzle I am trying to find the pieces for. I am recording the translated information in a spreadsheet to refer to. If I am asking for too much, please let me know. I don't want to take advantage.
Anonymus - 24 Mar 2015 - 12:07
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You are not asking too much but I suggest that you try to understand the structure of the record to be able to find the names of the parents and the birth date on your own. This will expedite your search and you will enjoy it much more. If you want to try you can always post here your interpretation and I, or other will correct it as needed.

What are exactly the info you have about the Poletto's or their children?
nmgarza811 - 24 Mar 2015 - 17:40
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I have tried several times with the records, even going so far as to type into google translate what I see....with disastrous results. The handwriting is very difficult for me to read unfortunately. I think if I knew the language it would be easier to decipher, but I can try again with some guidance. My grandmother was Livia Poletto, daughter of Romano and Alice Recher. Romano was the son of Felice and Maria Fuga (these names only very very recently discovered on a document I just discovered my mother had). We know nothing about siblings for Romano or Felice.

Here is one for Yolanda Maria Poletto born January 25 1905. Father is Vittorio 39 years residing in Padova. Can't decipher the mother's name.
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Anonymus - 24 Mar 2015 - 17:51
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Mother of Iolanda is Metilde Conz.
When was Livia Poletto Born? have you got her birth record?
nmgarza811 - 24 Mar 2015 - 18:28
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My grandmother was born in 1931 and she was actually born in Argentina. I do have her birth record which is the document we recently came across. Her parents and grandparents were from Venice.

This one I have a very hard time with because it is all handwritten for Amalia Poletto. If I am right the date is November 14 1877...
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Anonymus - 24 Mar 2015 - 19:07
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The year is 1873 and the name is Voletto, not Poletto. Amalia was born to a woman who did not want to be named. Both name and surname were assigned by the Official.
nmgarza811 - 24 Mar 2015 - 21:22
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Boy, I was way off on that one. Sounds like a very interesting situation though. Curious, does it say what happened to the baby?
nmgarza811 - 24 Mar 2015 - 22:27
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So this is Giovanni Poletto born December 5, 1904. Father Antonio age 33 watchmaker?. Mother Oliva Migatto. Did I get this one right?
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MdeChamfort1 - 26 Mar 2015 - 12:40
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
So this is Giovanni Poletto born December 5, 1904. Father Antonio age 33 watchmaker?. Mother Oliva Migatto. Did I get this one right?
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Yes, that's right. But he was a deadborn child.
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 10:10
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Okay, so that was all of the Poletto names I have found so far. So I will move on to the Romanin names I have found.

Marino Romanin born April 30, 1875. Father Guiseppe age 30. Mother Rosa Marini

Is that correct?
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Anonymus - 30 Mar 2015 - 10:20
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Father is Giuseppe. Guiseppe does not exist and is a horrible "American" misspelling.
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 10:44
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Thank you! I will make sure to always spell it correctly from now on.
This is quite the learning process for me.....

So for this one, I see Antonio Romanin born July 30, 1906. Father is Pasquale Amalia age 50. Mother Caterina Mora. I see the name Pietro Romanin but I don't know how it fits in.
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Again, thank you for the wonderful assistance.
Anonymus - 30 Mar 2015 - 11:07
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This one was a little bit more complicated:
Amalia (given name) Pasquali (surname) was the informant, Antonio was the son of Caterine Mora and of her husband Pietro Romanin, aged 29, train driver.
Amalia went to the town hall to declare the birth because Pietro Romanin was "busy with his job".
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 12:23
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Busy with his job, huh? Makes you wonder if there was more to it. I would think it wouldn't be unusual to wait a few days or a week or so to register a birth, so why send someone else. Makes you wonder.

Next we have Giovanna Romanin. All I can make out is that the parents were Giorgio Romanin age 28 and Fortunata Lanza. Is the date Sept 1 1871?
Anonymus - 30 Mar 2015 - 12:34
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
Busy with his job, huh? Makes you wonder if there was more to it. I would think it wouldn't be unusual to wait a few days or a week or so to register a birth, so why send someone else. Makes you wonder.

He was driving a train... BTW the birth was registered July 30 but occurred on the 26
nmgarza811 ha scritto:

Next we have Giovanna Romanin. All I can make out is that the parents were Giorgio Romanin age 28 and Fortunata Lanza. Is the date Sept 1 1871?

Link to record missing...
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 12:45
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link for Giovanna.... sorry. And with this I must get to bed for a couple of hours.
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Anonymus - 30 Mar 2015 - 12:54
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Giovanna Romanin born 1873 April 10
father: Giovanni Romanin (son of Pietro) 28yo carpenter
Mother: Fortunata Lanza, known as Teresa, (daughter of Michele) 27yo, housewife
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 13:08
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Thank you. The ones completely handwritten are very difficult for me, but hopefully I will get the hang of them. Last one for now, and then bed..truly.

Guido Romanin July 26, 1872? Father Arnoldo age 26. Mother Emilia Gentili

And does it say he died May 22 1944?
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 13:08
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did it again... here is the link for Guido
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MdeChamfort1 - 30 Mar 2015 - 13:15
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Guido Emanuele Romanin, father Arnoldo (aged 26, private teacher, Consiglio's son), mother Emilia Gentili (aged 26, Giacomo's daughter). He married on june, 18th 1899 Ermenegilda Luzzatto and he died on may, 22nd 1944 in Venice.
nmgarza811 - 30 Mar 2015 - 16:24
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So the birthdate was correct?
Anonymus - 30 Mar 2015 - 16:34
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
Thank you. The ones completely handwritten are very difficult for me, but hopefully I will get the hang of them. Last one for now, and then bed..truly.

Guido Romanin July 26, 1872? Father Arnoldo age 26. Mother Emilia Gentili

And does it say he died May 22 1944?


Birth date is 21 July
nmgarza811 - 31 Mar 2015 - 06:51
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Okay, so I seem to be getting a little better. Hopefully.

Romano Romanin Sep 15 1872. Father Luigi Romanin, son of Filippo.
Mother Carlotta Favero, daughter of Antonio age 36
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Anonymus - 31 Mar 2015 - 08:04
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Very good! Luigi Romanin was 43 years old.
nmgarza811 - 31 Mar 2015 - 17:26
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Doing my happy dance!

So for this one, I know that he is the brother of my great-grandmother, so I am interested in any additional information that might be given in the registration.

Umberto Eugenio Giuseppe born Oct 4, 1904. Father Marino Romanin age 22. Mother Amelia Formento.
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Anonymus - 31 Mar 2015 - 17:57
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Side notes:
Umberto married Giuseppina Ruzzon in Venezia on July 31 1937. Act #582.
he died in Padova on Feb 8 1963. Act #74 Part 1
Anonymus - 31 Mar 2015 - 18:00
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In the next few days I will be travelling and have limited access to Internet but I'm sure other forummers will continue to assist you
nmgarza811 - 01 Apr 2015 - 00:38
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Livio, I hope you have safe travels.

Well, thank you for your help on the Romanin records. Ready to move on to Canziani which are the main ones I am interested in. Once I have these done, I will start scanning through more images for additional names.

Mario Romano Canziani born April 2, 1905. Died in Padova March 21, 1967
Father Vittorio Canziani age 25
Mother Oliva Boffare?
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Anonymus - 01 Apr 2015 - 07:20
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April 2 is the registration date, actual birth is March 28
Mother's surname is Roffar.

Side note: Mario died in Padova March 21 1967
nmgarza811 - 01 Apr 2015 - 22:32
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This one is for Anna Canziani born Sept 1 1871? Father's name is Eugenio Canziani, son of Nicolo? The rest I have no idea.
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SamoR - 02 Apr 2015 - 00:35
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Canziani Anna, 18/01/1874, Venezia
father: Canziani Eugenio, 29 yo, Venezia, son of Nicolo',
mather: Pomo Giuditta, 30 yo,Venezia, dougter of Giacomo, Venezia

marriage: Venezia, 31/05/1875
nmgarza811 - 02 Apr 2015 - 01:36
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Who was married in 1875? Eugenio and Giuditta?
SamoR - 02 Apr 2015 - 06:26
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
Who was married in 1875? Eugenio and Giuditta?

Yes
nmgarza811 - 02 Apr 2015 - 12:15
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Okay, so noted.

This is for Ermenigildo Marco Pietro Canziani born July 12, 1907
Father Vittorio Canziani 44 carpenter
Mother Giuseppina Pezzati
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ziadani - 02 Apr 2015 - 14:04
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Ermenigildo Marco Pietro Canziani born June 14, 1907
Father Vittorio Canziani 44 carpenter
Mother Giuseppina Pezzati
marriage: Venezia, december 9, 1934 with Jolanda Libera
nmgarza811 - 02 Apr 2015 - 17:25
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Thank you! It feels so amazing to finally be able to get this information extracted and logged.

This is for Pietro Giuseppe Canziani born March 15, 1907
Father Vittorio Canziani age 27
Mother Oliva Roffare
married Margherita Gabbato Feb 22 1936
died Feb 25 1987 in Mestre
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ziadani - 02 Apr 2015 - 18:43
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ok
nmgarza811 - 03 Apr 2015 - 01:01
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Amazing how happy that thumbs up makes me!

Time to scan through some more records to see what I can find. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
nmgarza811 - 06 Apr 2015 - 08:01
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I have come across another Canziani record

This one is for:
Filippo Luigi Eugenio Canziani born Feb 3 906
Father Luigi Canziani
Mother Giuseppina Cortella
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ziadani - 06 Apr 2015 - 08:10
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
I have come across another Canziani record

This one is for:
Filippo Luigi Eugenio Canziani born Feb 3 906 january 30, 1906
Father Luigi Canziani
Mother Giuseppina Cortella

death: Padova november 29, 1969
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nmgarza811 - 06 Apr 2015 - 08:28
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Thank you! Searching for more....
nmgarza811 - 06 Apr 2015 - 09:45
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So this is Alcibiade Mario Angelo Perdon born Sept 23, 1906. I'm not able to make out his parents' names. I recently discovered that he was the first husband of my aunt, so I am excited to find his birth record.
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ziadani - 06 Apr 2015 - 09:55
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Alcibiade Mario Angelo Perdon born Sept 23, 1906
Father Luigi Perdon, age 33
Mother Attilia Da Venezia
nmgarza811 - 06 Apr 2015 - 10:11
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Thank you!!

This is for Gino Canziani born Jan 16, 1908
Father Luigi Canziani and Mother Giuseppina Cortella
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ziadani - 06 Apr 2015 - 10:17
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
Thank you!!

This is for Gino Canziani born Jan 16, 1908 jan 11, 1908
Father Luigi Canziani and Mother Giuseppina Cortella
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nmgarza811 - 06 Apr 2015 - 15:31
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thank you!

This is a confirmed family member:
Elvira Elena Mario Romanin born March 6, 1908
Father Marino Romanin and mother Amelia Formento
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ziadani - 06 Apr 2015 - 15:44
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
thank you!

This is a confirmed family member:
Elvira Elena Maria Romanin born March 6, 1908
Father Marino Romanin, age 25, and mother Amelia Formento
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nmgarza811 - 06 Apr 2015 - 18:42
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Again, much thanks.

This one is Annita Caterina born May 15, 1908
Father is Luigi Perdon and mother is Attilia de Venezia
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ziadani - 06 Apr 2015 - 19:35
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:
Again, much thanks.

This one is Annita Caterina born May 15, 1908
Father is Luigi Perdon and mother is Attilia Da Venezia (Da Venezia is the surname)
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nmgarza811 - 08 Apr 2015 - 03:05
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I have made the correction to the name.

This is Antonia Maria Poletto born Dec 20, 1908
Father Antonio Poletto
Mother Theresa Capriani
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ziadani - 08 Apr 2015 - 08:24
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No, this is Giuseppina Canziani born Nov 23, 1908
Father Giuseppe Canziani
Mother Stella Zanetti
nmgarza811 - 08 Apr 2015 - 09:29
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oops... here is the correct link for Antonia Poletto
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ziadani - 08 Apr 2015 - 09:40
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Antonia Maria Poletto born Dec 20, 1908
Father Antonio Poletto
Mother Teresa Capriani

married Gaetano Talin April 8, 1934 in Venezia
died April 8, 1961 in Venezia Giudecca
nmgarza811 - 08 Apr 2015 - 11:27
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thank you!

This is Zoeliva (?) Romanin born October 15 1908
Father Pietro Romanin and mother Caterina Moro
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ziadani - 08 Apr 2015 - 11:39
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:

This is Zeliva Graziosa Maria Romanin born October 15 1908
Father Pietro Romanin and mother Caterina Moro

nmgarza811 - 08 Apr 2015 - 11:42
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Thank you! I have never seen that name before.

Here is Marco Luigi Vittorio Romanin born May 9, 1909
Father Giovanni Romanin and mother Palmira (?) Mazzoli
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ziadani - 08 Apr 2015 - 11:43
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battimani
nmgarza811 - 08 Apr 2015 - 17:37
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Thank you, thank you... (taking a bow)

Here goes another, let's see how I do.

Pasqua Canziani born Jul 19, 1887
Father Vincenzo age 26 son ofGiovanni
Mother Maria Pianon age 25 daughter of Sebastiano
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ery1 - 08 Apr 2015 - 18:00
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Hi,
Pasqua Canziani born October 3, 1883
Father Vincenzo age 26 son of Giovanni Battista, stonecutter
Mother Maria Pianon age 25 daughter of Sebastiano, housewife.

They lived in Venezia, Santa Maria dei Frari, house n2912.

Erica
ery1 - 08 Apr 2015 - 18:06
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Citazione:
Here is Marco Luigi Vittorio Romanin born May 9, 1909
Father Giovanni Romanin and mother Palmira (?) Mazzoli

This is correct!
Marco was born in a house situated in Castello at n6493, his father Giovanni Romanin was 21 yo and worked as trade agent, his mother Palmira Mazzoli was housewife.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 08 Apr 2015 - 18:07
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Okay, way off on date, but glad to know I got the rest right.....

Pietro Giovanni Antonio Canziani born Jul 25 1872
Father Raimondo age 38 son of Bortolo
Mother Margherita Girardini age 39 daughter of Francesco
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ery1 - 08 Apr 2015 - 20:41
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The month is June not July...
Pietro Giovanni Antonio Canziani born June 25 1872
Father Raimondo age 38 son of deceased Bortolo, modeller at the Regio Arsenale
Mother Margherita Girardini age 39 daughter of deceased Francesco, housewife.

Pietro was born in a house situated in Venezia, San Marziale at n2956.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Apr 2015 - 00:55
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so does that mean he was a gun maker, I wonder?

Okay, here is
Stella Canziani May 1873
father Rinaldo Canziani age 33 son of Marco Antonio, also worker at the Arsenale
mother Maria Fellicciolli (?) age 24 daughter of Salvatore
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ery1 - 09 Apr 2015 - 10:24
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Citazione:
so does that mean he was a gun maker, I wonder?

No, modeller (modellista) means he was a sort of smith in shipbuilding.

Stella Canziani was born May 19 1873 in a house situated in Venezia, San Raffaele n1812
father Rinaldo Canziani age 33 son of deceased Marco Antonio, ship caulker (calafato) at the Regio Arsenale
mother Maria Pellicciolli age 24 daughter of deceased Salvatore, housewife.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Apr 2015 - 22:48
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Okay, that makes more sense for the occupation.

This one, I was not able to decipher the first name
A? Poletto born Apr 18 1909
Father Antonio Poletto
Mother Annetta Regalli
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ery1 - 09 Apr 2015 - 23:37
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Well...
Arte Armida Adele Teresa Poletto was born on April 18 1909 in a house situated in Via Luigi Rh n2 in Meda
Father Antonio Poletto age 30, cabinetmaker, residing in Venezia
Mother Annetta Regalli, housewife.

The name Arte means art, it's a bit curious! but I've found a Poletto Arte buried in the Monumental Cemetery of Torino:
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Erica
nmgarza811 - 10 Apr 2015 - 00:03
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Interesting. If it is the same person, she would have died very young. I wonder if there is a site like that for the cemetery in Venice. It would be so helpful if there was, but I haven't been able to find any webpages for it at all.

This is Norma A? Giudetta Romanin born October 1909
Father Umberto Romanin
Mother Andrietta? Casutti?

The handwriting on this one is very difficult for me. I appreciate all of your amazing help.
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ery1 - 10 Apr 2015 - 00:48
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Citazione:
I wonder if there is a site like that for the cemetery in Venice.

Not to my knowledge.

Norma Apollonia Giuditta Romanin born October 26 1909 in a house situated in Castello n528
Father Umberto Romanin age 31, residing in Venezia, delivery agent
Mother Andrietta Casutti, housewife residing with her husband.

Citazione:
I appreciate all of your amazing help.

I's a pleasure! Smile

Erica

Norma married Miatto Tommaso on October 7th 1933 in Venezia and then she died on November 9th 1979 in Lido di Venezia.
ziadani - 10 Apr 2015 - 08:43
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ery1 ha scritto:
Well...
Arte Armida Adele Teresa Poletto was born on April 18 1909 in a house situated in Via Luigi Rh n2 in Meda
Father Antonio Poletto age 30, cabinetmaker, residing in Venezia
Mother Annetta Regalli, housewife.

The name Arte means art, it's a bit curious! but I've found a Poletto Arte buried in the Monumental Cemetery of Torino:
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Erica


Ery1 aveva visto giusto.
Cercando nel dbase delle sepolture nei cimiteri di Torino, oltre ad Arte Poletto, ho trovato anche sua madre Anna Regalli in Poletto.
Purtroppo mancano le date di nascita, ma dovrebbero essere loro!
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Ecco il link al sito del Comune di Torino per eventuali altre ricerche
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nmgarza811 - 13 Apr 2015 - 08:42
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Interesting on the cemetery records...thank you!

I have finally had a moment to start looking again through records.

Here is Angela Teresa Amalia Romanin born May 18 1910
father is Pietro Romanin and mother is Caterina Moro
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ery1 - 13 Apr 2015 - 12:59
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Angela Teresa Amalia Romanin born May 18 1910 in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venezia) at n1506.
Father is Pietro Romanin age 32, railway man and mother is Caterina Moro, housewife, both residing in Venezia.

Declaration of birth was made by Bassan Giovanna, midwife, because Pietro Romanin is prevented.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 15 Apr 2015 - 02:43
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Again, my appreciation! This is helping me to feel much confidence in working with these records.

This is Elisabetta Maria Canziani born Jun 14 1910
Father Luigi Canziani and mother Giuseppina Cortella
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MdeChamfort1 - 15 Apr 2015 - 10:59
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Yes, that is correct Wink
MdeChamfort1 - 15 Apr 2015 - 11:10
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Don't forget what is written on the right side. She married Mario Colombo on November 29, 1935 in Venice.
nmgarza811 - 15 Apr 2015 - 15:21
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Thank you!

This one for Vittoria Canziani has me stumped. I think it says something about her legitimacy but not sure what. I do see the name Colomba Gabbiata which is a name in my tree, but I can't tell if it's her mother or not.
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luorui - 15 Apr 2015 - 15:35
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Colomba Gabiato is a witness (48, housewife).
On the right side it is written that Canziani Vittoria was legitimized as daughter of Canziani Vittorio and Canziani Adelaide after their marriage (7 december 1910).
She was born on 27th of October 1910.
nmgarza811 - 15 Apr 2015 - 15:52
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Interesting.... I have a Vittorio Canziani as the son of Columba, but with a different wife. I wonder if he was married twice. Definitely requires more research for this. Do you think Canziani was Adelaide's maiden name?
luorui - 15 Apr 2015 - 16:35
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here's their marriage act
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Canziani Vittorio, 21, son of Luigi and Gabbiato Colomba
Canziani Adelaide, 21, daughter of Guglielmo and Ferro Caterina
this was their first marriage, maybe Vittorio remarried later.
nmgarza811 - 16 Apr 2015 - 01:02
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Okay, I have to figure this out. I have Vittorio (the same as mentioned in the marriage contract) as married to Giovanna Canziani, daughter to Guglielmo and Caterina Ferro. They were first cousins, which would make him and Adelaide first cousins as well. So the question then...is Giovanna and Adelaide one and the same? I have not heard of Adelaide before as a family member. I am trying to find the birth record for either name. I have Giovanna's birth date as Dec 9 1889.
nmgarza811 - 16 Apr 2015 - 02:51
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so here is the birth record for Adelaide Canziani. I was hoping it would list her as Adelaide Giovanna, but no such luck. I do see her parents' names and the name of her spouse, as well as her date of death which matches what I have for Giovanna's death date.
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nmgarza811 - 16 Apr 2015 - 03:08
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So I messed up, the birthdate I have for Giovanna is Sep 12, 1909...same as Adelaide. Clearly the same woman. So how does it go from Adelaide to Giovanna??
luorui - 16 Apr 2015 - 08:54
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Adelaide was born on the 25th of September 1889
Also on the left it is recorded that she was legitimized after her parents married on the 21st of September 1892 (2nd volume, 1st part, act 548)

They didn't always register all names in the birth act, maybe she's Giovanna Adelaide in the baptism record. Or maybe Giovanna is how she was called by family and friends anyway, who knows why, and in some documents it was recorded that way.
nmgarza811 - 17 Apr 2015 - 00:42
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Thank you. So how would I go about getting the baptism record I wonder?

Also, is there anyway to access Venetian obituaries?
ery1 - 17 Apr 2015 - 01:20
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So how would I go about getting the baptism record I wonder?

I think you can find the baptism record at The Archivio storico del Patriarcato di Venezia,
see here:
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Also, is there anyway to access Venetian obituaries?

Not to my knowledge.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 17 Apr 2015 - 02:05
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Sent an email and just received a message back that they are closed from April 1 to Autumn 2015... I guess I will wait and move on to other information.
nmgarza811 - 19 Apr 2015 - 10:33
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Finally found another record. I am having a little harder time with this one. The handwriting and the format look different than the ones I have gotten used to.

Giovanni Canziani born Jul 1889
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ery1 - 19 Apr 2015 - 14:37
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Giovanni Ermenegildo Canziani born July 11 1889 in a house situated in Dorsoduro n1676 D
Father Canziani Marco age 27, residing in Venezia, profession turner (tornitore)
Mother Bastasi Elisabetta, housewife residing with her husband.

Giovanni married Trinca Sofia on January 25 1920 in Venezia and died on August 14 1976 in Mestre (Venezia).

Declaration was made by Trippa Amalia who attended childbirth because Giovanni's father was busy at his job.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 20 Apr 2015 - 09:57
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Thank you very much!

Here is Bianca Poletto born April 1889
father is Felice Poletto and mother is Maria Fuga.
She is the sister of my great-grandfather so I am very excited to find this record.
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ery1 - 20 Apr 2015 - 12:14
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Bianca Poletto born April 26 1889 in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venezia) at n897
father is Felice Poletto, age 26, residing in Mira, railway laborer
and mother is Maria Fuga, housewife, residing with her husband.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 22 Apr 2015 - 03:26
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Erica, thank you very much!

I think this is another confirmed family member!!

Federico Canziani born July 1902
Are the parents Luigi and Colomba?

Also is the record below it for Angelo a twin?
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luorui - 22 Apr 2015 - 08:47
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Exactly,
they were born on the 14th of July 1902 in the house in Dorsoduro n. 1710,
the father couldn't be there (they don't say why) so the midwife reported their births.
nmgarza811 - 28 Apr 2015 - 17:14
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So finally, another family member found!

Giovanni Poletto born May 5, 1902 to Felice Poletto and Maria Fuga.

I do see that there is a mention of an Amalia Fuga, does it say what the relationship is?
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luorui - 28 Apr 2015 - 17:27
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Giovanni Poletto was born on May 3rd 1902 (the 5th is when he was registered) in Cannareggio 1839.

Amalia, 42, matchgirl, was the one reporting the birth, she assisted Maria, the midwife was busy (for another birth) and the father was busy as well (possibly out for work). It does not state the relationship, but it's likely that she's a family member.
ery1 - 28 Apr 2015 - 17:42
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The baby wasn't born alive and his father resing in Mira and was busy with his jos...he was a railway shunter.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 28 Apr 2015 - 18:22
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Oh that is sad. I can't even imagine that feeling.
nmgarza811 - 21 Mag 2015 - 05:55
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So I know it has been a few weeks since I have posted. Haven't had a chance to really take a look through records until tonight.

So this is another confirmed family member:
Angela Poletto born December 20, 1898
father Felice Poletto and mother Maria Fuga
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ery1 - 21 Mag 2015 - 12:49
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Angela Poletto born December 20, 1898 in a house n 747 situated in Cannaregio, Venice
father Felice Poletto, 36, railway laborer and mother Maria Fuga, matchgirl, both residing in Mira but with their own house in Venice.
Birth's declaration was made by Bassan Giovanna, 44 yo, midwife.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 23 Lug 2015 - 09:39
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Hello all!! I have not had much chance lately to search through records which is why I have been so quiet. But scrolling through I have come across a definite family member.

Erminio Giovanni Canziani born May 5 1896
Father Luigi Canziani
Mother Colomba Gabbiato
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ery1 - 23 Lug 2015 - 13:10
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Erminio Giovanni Canziani born May 5 1896 in a house situated in Dorsoduro n1710
Father Canziani Luigi age 38, residing in Venezia, profession carpenter
Mother Gabbiato Colomba, housewife residing with her husband.

Witnesses: Canziani Luigia (probably Luigi's sister?), age 23, housewife and Giacobbi Amalia, age 38, housewife.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 24 Lug 2015 - 02:34
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Luigia is a new name to me! Can't wait to discover who she is. Thank you once again Erica!
nmgarza811 - 29 Lug 2015 - 08:54
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Jackpot! birth record for my great-grandfather Romano Poletto!!

So I know his parents are Felice Poletto and Maria Fuga and that he was born in November 1896, but I can't make out the day. Also, I do see that it lists the marriage to Alice Recker, but I can't quite make out the date. Help is much appreciated.
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ziadani - 29 Lug 2015 - 09:17
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nmgarza811 ha scritto:

So I know his parents are Felice Poletto and Maria Fuga and that he was born in November 1896, but I can't make out the day. Primo = 1 (1 november 1896)

Also, I do see that it lists the marriage to Alice Recker, but I can't quite make out the date. 22 june 1925 in Vicenza

nmgarza811 - 29 Lug 2015 - 09:24
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Thank you! Know I can see that it says primo....
nmgarza811 - 03 Ago 2015 - 09:41
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Hello again!

So here is another child of Felice Poletto and Maria Fuga.

This is Irma Poletto born June 3, 1895. Is that correct?

Thank you!
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Fresty - 03 Ago 2015 - 10:53
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Hello!
Yes, it is correct.
nmgarza811 - 15 Ago 2015 - 06:13
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So I have found another confirmed family member

Luigi Antonio Canziani born June 10 1894
father Luigi Canziani and mother Colomba Gabbiato
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ziadani - 15 Ago 2015 - 07:18
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Yes, it is correct.
nmgarza811 - 16 Ago 2015 - 00:39
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Another confirmed family member!!! This is getting very exciting.

Carlo Poletto born August 23, 1892
Father Felice Poletto and mother Maria Fuga
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elica - 17 Ago 2015 - 00:53
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That's correct!
elica - 17 Ago 2015 - 01:11
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Felice Poletto was 30 years old and was a railway shunter. Maria Fuga was a housewife.
nmgarza811 - 17 Ago 2015 - 03:17
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Thank you!! And here is another confirmed family member...one I actually already had in my tree so it is nice to learn his actual date of birth and his marriage!!

Natale Canziani born December 24 1892 (and now I know why he is named Natale)
father Guglielmo and mother Caterina Ferro.
Married Elisa Canziani May 5, 1914 in Venezia (and yes, they were first cousins)
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elica - 17 Ago 2015 - 13:10
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That's correct.
nmgarza811 - 26 Ago 2015 - 06:46
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This is a record I have no idea how to even begin reading. All I know is that it is for Anna Canziani.

Is anyone familiar with these records who can tell me why they are so different from the regular fill in the blank type records I have been posting?
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elica - 26 Ago 2015 - 14:12
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Anna Canziani
born January 18th 1874
father: was Eugenio Canziani, 29 yo, caulker, son of Nicol
mother: Giuditta Pomo, 30 yo, tobacco worker, daughter of Giacomo.

The main part of the document says Giuditta was Eugenio's wife but the side part says they married in May 31st 1874 so Anna was legitimated.

Anna's documet starts at 6th line.
elica - 26 Ago 2015 - 14:20
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They lived in Venice, San Raffaele n1768.
nmgarza811 - 26 Ago 2015 - 23:01
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Thank you for the help on that one!

So this one is for Elvira Canziani born Jul 22 1905
Father Vittorio Canziani and mother Giuseppina Pezzati?
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ery1 - 26 Ago 2015 - 23:15
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So this one is for Elvira Canziani born Jul 22 1905

Yes, in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n 2406.
Her complete name was Elvira Olga Maria...father Vittorio Canziani (carpenter by prefession) and mother Giuseppina Pezzati (housewife), both residing in Venice.
She married Curcio Francesco on October 16 1937 in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 27 Ago 2015 - 04:56
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Thank you!! And on to the next one. I figure I can work on some of the ones I haven't confirmed as family yet while I am searching for those...

This is Ermenegilda (?) Canziani born February 12 1909
Father is Vittorio Canziani and mother is Oliva Rossare or Roffare?
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ery1 - 27 Ago 2015 - 13:09
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This is Ermenegilda (?) Canziani born February 12 1909
Father is Vittorio Canziani and mother is Oliva Rossare or Roffare?

Yes, Ermenegilda Rosa Canziani born February 12 1909 in a house situated in Santa Croce at n 2002, father Vittorio Canziani, 29 yo, bricklayer, and mother Oliva Roffare, both residing in Venice.
She married Salata Mario on May 19 1936 in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 28 Ago 2015 - 07:24
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Thank you! Again!

Here is Giovanni Canziani born in 1906 to Domenico Canziani and Rosa Rossi.
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BUT HERE IS THE TWIST: Here is another record for Giovanni Canziani born to the same parents, but in October 1909. Was it common to give the same name? Or did something happen to the first Giovanni?
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luorui - 28 Ago 2015 - 08:00
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It was common, I find it very often in my research. Most likely the first Giovanni died before 1909, so they gave his name to the newborn. I have a family with 4 kids with the same name, unfortunately they kept dying.
nmgarza811 - 28 Ago 2015 - 15:33
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Okay, thank you for the confirmation. When I start looking at the death records maybe I'll be able to confirm that information.

Here is yet another Giovanni Canziani born Feb 19 1889 to Carlo Canziani. I am not seeing the mother's name though.
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luorui - 28 Ago 2015 - 15:53
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Just under the name of the baby on the right column it is written that Silvestri Lucia fu Alessandro, his natural mother, recognized him as her son in 1891 (possibly the parents got married).
nmgarza811 - 28 Ago 2015 - 16:06
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That's interesting. I would think it is the father who would have had to recognize him as his son. Clearly the child is the mother's....
luorui - 28 Ago 2015 - 16:36
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Very often it was the father who introduced the child to the civil officer, usually stating he/she was his child born from his natural union with an unmarried, unnamed woman who wasn't his relative. Sometimes simply they were married but only in church (and so it wasn't recognized by the state until they married in the civil office too).
nmgarza811 - 03 Set 2015 - 08:13
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I think that is very interesting!

So this is Anna Canziani born May 19, 1890. I think her father is Marco Canziani but cannot make the mother's name out.
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luorui - 03 Set 2015 - 08:45
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It's a little hard to read and there's a correction at the end of the document but I THINK the mother is Battaggia aka Battaglia Speranza called Gilda, housewife.
Anna then got married to Brigo? Pietro on 17 Oct 1917 in Venice
and she died in Venice 29 June 1976
nmgarza811 - 03 Set 2015 - 09:15
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Thank you!!

This is Pietro Poletto born July 1890. Father is Luigi Poletto. Can't make out the full birthdate or the mother's name.
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nmgarza811 - 03 Set 2015 - 09:17
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And it looks like this is Pietro's twin Antonio Secondo...
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luorui - 03 Set 2015 - 12:19
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They were born on the 16th of July in Santa Croce 864
The mother is Costantini Pierina.
Pietro Primo was the first and then Antonio Secondo the second, and so they gave Primo and Secondo as names to the 2.
Antonio was married to Borialdo? Anna Teresa in Tarcento on the 16th of Jan 1922 and then died in Palmanova (Udine) on the 29th of Jan 1962.
nmgarza811 - 03 Set 2015 - 18:51
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So is Costantini the first or last name?
luorui - 03 Set 2015 - 20:50
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Costantini is her last name, Pierina is a female version of Piero.
nmgarza811 - 03 Set 2015 - 21:18
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Thank you. I just wanted to double check.
nmgarza811 - 06 Set 2015 - 08:37
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Okay, this is for Ines Romanin born August 25 1891

father is Carlo Romanin and mother is Vittoria Pizzo
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elica - 06 Set 2015 - 09:30
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That's correct.
Then Ines married Amedeo Mattiello in February 12th, 1921, in Venice (record n. 156 in Weddings Register) and died March 4th, 1952, in Venice as well (Death Register, part II-B, record n.303.
nmgarza811 - 06 Set 2015 - 09:56
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Thank you!!

And here is another confirmed family member (no idea there were so many siblings). Giuseppe Poletto born Dec 1 1890. Father is Felice and mother is Maria Fuga.
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elica - 06 Set 2015 - 12:43
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Correct. And he married Maria Sartori on January 16th, 1915 in Vicenza (record n. 10 in Weddings register).
He died on July 31st, 1964 in Vicenza too (record n. 601 in Death register, section II-B).
nmgarza811 - 07 Set 2015 - 21:05
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Thank you, again.

This one cannot make out at all for Amalia Poletto, except that it is 1873.
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ery1 - 07 Set 2015 - 21:27
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Amalia Voletto (that way she was called) was born to a woman who didn't want to be named on November 9 1873 in a house situated in Santa Maria dei Frari at n 2866, in Venice.


Erica
nmgarza811 - 08 Set 2015 - 00:08
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Oh it says Voletto? Not connected to me then. But how sad that the mother wouldn't want to be named. I wonder what the situation was. What would have happened to Amalia?

So this is Ferruccio Gastone Poletto born Mar 24 1910. Father is Antonio Poletto and Teresa Capriani
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ery1 - 08 Set 2015 - 01:05
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Amalia was born from unknown parents and she was probably an illegitimate child...
Only the midwife and a man who assisted childbirth and denounced the birth are mentioned.

Citazione:
So this is Ferruccio Gastone Poletto born Mar 24 1910. Father is Antonio Poletto and Teresa Capriani

No, the year is 1911 and he was born in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n1476 B, in Venice.

His father was Antonio, 38 yo, smith, residing in Dolo and his mother was Capriani Teresa, housewife, who lived with her husband.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 08 Set 2015 - 03:22
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How horrible to be denounced. I would love to follow up on her. It's heartbreaking.

So here are 2 names: Maria Poletto born Mar 18 1889 and it looks like her father was Luigi? And then it looks like a twin brother Giuseppe? Very tough handwriting to read for me.
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ery1 - 08 Set 2015 - 12:09
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Maria Poletto born Mar 18 1889 and it looks like her father was Luigi? And then it looks like a twin brother Giuseppe

Yes, that's correct! They were twin..


Erica
ery1 - 08 Set 2015 - 12:18
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She was stillborn in a house situated in Santa Croce (Venice) at n 864.
Her father Luigi, 30 yo, was a sort of railwayman (called "guarda fumo ferroviere") and residing in Mestre, while her mother Costantini Pierina was housewife and lived with her husband.

Giuseppe (the second child) was stillborn too.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 08 Set 2015 - 22:45
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How absolutely heartbreaking! I can't even begin to imagine. One renounces her child and the other loses 2.

Well, here is Maria Canziani a confirmed family member. Born Jan 11 1891 to Luigi and Colomba Gabbiato.
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I do want to say again how much I appreciate you helping me with these. It has allowed me to add so many new family members I never knew about, and to create my spreadsheet with others I hope to be able to figure out how the fit into the clan.
ery1 - 08 Set 2015 - 23:12
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Born Jan 11 1891 to Luigi and Colomba Gabbiato.

Yes, all correct!
Maria Canziani was stillborn too in the Civic Hospital situated in Castello (Venice) at n6778, where her mother was received and gave birth to the baby.
Her mother Colomba was housewife and her father Luigi, 33 yo, was carpenter by profession.
They lived both in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 08 Set 2015 - 23:29
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another stillborn? I know I shouldn't be surprised given the time period, but still sad.

Here is Vittoria Poletto born Jan 1 1890. Looks like father is Gaetano Poletto and I cannot make out th mother's name.
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ery1 - 09 Set 2015 - 00:38
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Yes, Vittoria Poletto born Jan 1 1890 in the Civic Hospital situated in Castello (Venice) at n6778.
Her father was Gaetano Poletto, 42 yo, mechanic and her mother was Carlotta Cambruzzi, seamstress, both residing in Venice but their domicile was in Vicenza.

Vittoria married Luigi Silvestri on May 7 1911 in Venice and died on December 11 1983 in Malamocco (hamlet of Venice).

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Set 2015 - 04:04
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Thank you!

Here is Angela Irene Tecla (?) Poletto born Feb 18 1904. Father is Antonio Poletto and mother is Teresa Capriani.
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ery1 - 09 Set 2015 - 11:46
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Citazione:
Here is Angela Irene Tecla (?) Poletto born Feb 18 1904.

Yes, Angela Irene Tecla was born in a house situated in Dorsoduro (Venice) at n 950.

Her father Antonio, 31 yo, was smith by profession and her mother Teresa Capriani was housewife, both residing in Venice but their domicile was in Dolo.

Birth was denounced by the midwife because her father Antonio was sick at that time.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Set 2015 - 18:43
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Thanks!

Here is Elisa Maria Poletto born Jun 20 1898.

Father is Arturo Poletto and I do not see the mother's name.
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ery1 - 09 Set 2015 - 19:10
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Here is Elisa Maria Poletto born Jun 20 1898.

Yes, she was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n3865 and was recognized as legitimate daughter after her parents' marriage, celebrated on October 13 1900 in Treviso.

Her father Arturo was 22 yo, billposter by profession and his domicile was in Treviso but residing in Venice; her mother was Teresa Fiabon.

Elisa married Giovanni Basso on November 1st 1919 in Venice and died on July 12 1982 in Bolzano.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Set 2015 - 19:22
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And here we have Alice Poletto born October 5 1896.

Father is Innocente Guiseppe Poletto and her mother is Antonia Sossich ?
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ery1 - 09 Set 2015 - 19:49
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And here we have Alice Poletto born October 5 1896.

Father is Innocente Guiseppe Poletto and her mother is Antonia Sossich ?

Ok, Alice was born in a house situated in Castello (Venice) at n3053.

Her mother Antonia was housewife while her father Innocente Giuseppe, 31 yo, was marshal in the Italian Navy, his domicile was in Turin but was residing in Venice by reason of his military service.

Alice married Alfio D'Este on October 21 1926 in Venice and died on January 1st 1979 in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Set 2015 - 20:08
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Well, here is a brother to Alice. I can make out everything about Ferruccio except the name of his spouse.
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ery1 - 09 Set 2015 - 21:02
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Poletto Ferruccio Giovanni Antonio Matteo was born January 22 1894 in a house situated in Castello (Venice) at n3053.

His mother Antonia was well-to-do and residing in Venice while his father Innocente, 28 yo, was machinist in the Royal Italian Navy and his domicile was in Turin.

Ferruccio married De Battisti Maria on September 8 1930 in Venice and died on November 30 1962 in Venice too.

One of the witnesses was Antonio Sossich, 46 yo, baker by profession and probably related to Antonia Sossich.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 09 Set 2015 - 22:38
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It actually says the mother was well-to-do? kind of implies that the father wasn't and she married below her station doesn't it?

Well, that does it for the Poletto names I currently have found...on to to the Romanin names.

Here is Rita Apollonia Vittoria born Dec 15 1910. Father Giovanni Romanin and mother Palmira Mazzoli.
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ery1 - 09 Set 2015 - 23:02
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It actually says the mother was well-to-do? kind of implies that the father wasn't and she married below her station doesn't it?

We don't know... But I don't think so because he made a military career and therefore he could come from a wealthy family.

Citazione:
Here is Rita Apollonia Vittoria born Dec 15 1910. Father Giovanni Romanin and mother Palmira Mazzoli.

Yes, Rita was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n5259 B.
Her mother Palmira was housewife and her father Giovanni, 23 yo, was sales agent; their domicile was in Venice.

Rita married Emilio Bevilacqua on April 22 1944 in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 10 Set 2015 - 08:04
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I wish google earth had ground images of Venice so I could map the houses.

This is Ida Nina Romanin born January 2 1903 to Guido Romanin and Ermingilda Luzzatto.
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luorui - 10 Set 2015 - 13:34
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There is google maps' street view... I definitely remember seeing the google-map-man with his weird backpack and sort of antenna going about venice on foot when I lived there.
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and also
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luorui - 10 Set 2015 - 13:36
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sorry about that long link, if a mod can modify my message and remove it, I notice now it's too long and makes the page wonky, and doesn't work, apparently.
But basically, go to google MAPS and type in venice and then go to street view!

Scusate per il link, pare non funzionare e non mi ero resa conto avrebbe sformato la pagina, se un mod potesse modificare il mio messaggio togliendolo sarei grata, in questa sezione non vedo il tasto modifica.
ery1 - 10 Set 2015 - 13:44
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The link works by copying and pasting it into the address bar...

Erica
ery1 - 10 Set 2015 - 13:51
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Ida Nina Romanin born January 2 1903 in a house situated in Cannaregio at n4814 to Guido Romanin (31 yo, shopkeeper, residing in Venice) and Ermenegilda Luzzatto.

Ida married Guido Bassan on March 12 1928 in Venice she was of Jewish race (annotation of June 26 1939 in Venice).

Erica
ery1 - 10 Set 2015 - 14:20
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Indeed, until the early '800, in the area of the Cannaregio sestiere of Venice there was the Venetian Ghetto:
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ziadani - 10 Set 2015 - 14:55
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Luzzatto un cognome ebraico.
nmgarza811 - 10 Set 2015 - 19:52
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I will try google earth again. The last time I did it, it most definitely did not have the street images...excited to try it now and see my gorgeous city again.

Erica, I have spent many hours in the Ghetto in Venice. I even got to go to Sabbath services there...an amazing experience!! It's interesting to see this connection to Judaism. My mom always told me that it was believed a branch of the family was originally Jewish and forced to convert. There is a belief that if that happens, somewhere down the line it will be brought back to Judaism. My mother converted to Judaism before i was born in Israel. So far, I don't know if this particular Romanin is connected...but it will be interesting to find out.

I wonder, is anyone here actually in Venice?
ery1 - 10 Set 2015 - 20:33
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I've been to Venice once and I have visited the Jewish Ghetto...
I love that city but I live in Tuscany. Smile

I'm curious to find out if the Romanin are related to you... Detective

Erica
nmgarza811 - 10 Set 2015 - 20:44
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Well, I am looking at all the Romanins and tracking what I find because my great-grandmother was Bice Romanin, daughter of Marino Romanin and Amelia Formento. I have found a couple of siblings, but still no connection to any of the others.

Searching the records is very slow going. I think when I can finally get to the marriage records, that should start to help piece the puzzle together.... I hope!
nmgarza811 - 10 Set 2015 - 20:46
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So with that...

here is Giuseppe Enrico Giovanni Romanin born January 31 1903. Father Pietro Romanin and mother Catterina Moro ?
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ery1 - 10 Set 2015 - 23:18
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Yes, Giuseppe Enrico Giovanni Romanin born January 31 1903 in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n114.
Father Pietro Romanin, 25 yo, railroad fireman by profession and mother Catterina Moro, housewife, both residing in Venice.

Giuseppe married Italia Doni on March 9 1934 in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 10 Set 2015 - 23:41
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So here is another Romanin that was recorded as being Jewish.

Mario Leone Romanin born February 28 1901 to Guido Romanin and Ermenegilda Luzzatto. Looks like he was recorded as Jewish on Jul 27 1939...

What name would Ermenegilda translate to?
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ery1 - 11 Set 2015 - 14:28
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No, Mario Leone was born on February 27 1901, in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n4814.
His father was Guido Romanin, 29 yo, shopkeeper, residing in Venice and his mother was Ermenegilda Luzzatto, housewife.
Citazione:
he was recorded as Jewish on Jul 27 1939...Ok!



Mario married Elena Molensk on September 3 1933 in Turin.

The name Ermenegilda doesn't have an English translation to my knowledge but it can be shortened to Gilda.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 11 Set 2015 - 19:40
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I was going to ask why they were recorded in 1939 so long after their birth, but then looking at the date I realize it probably has everything to do with what was going on with WWII and the unfortunate Nazi alliance at the time.
Makes me proud to know my grandfather and his brothers were part of the resistance and help smuggle Jews out of Italy during the war.

Here is Cesare Augusto Romanin born Oct 3 1901 to Pietro Romanin and Catterina Moro.
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ery1 - 12 Set 2015 - 00:13
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Yes, at that time (1939) the Jews were filed and persecuted..

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Here is Cesare Augusto Romanin born Oct 3 1901 to Pietro Romanin and Catterina Moro

Yes, he was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n114.
His father Pietro, 24 yo, was fireman and his mother Catterina was housewife, both residing in Venice.

Cesare married Gemma Valenti on October 15 1937 in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 12 Set 2015 - 01:50
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Definitely not one of Italy's proudest moments...

Well here is Ugo Arnoldo Romanin born February 19 1900 to Guido Romanin and Ermenegilda Luzzatto.
There is no notation that I see where he was identified as Jewish. I wonder what happened to him...

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ery1 - 12 Set 2015 - 15:54
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Definitely not one of Italy's proudest moments...Yes, very sad....


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Well here is Ugo Arnoldo Romanin born February 19 1900 to Guido Romanin and Ermenegilda Luzzatto...Ok!


Ugo Arnoldo Mois Romanin was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n2206 to Guido Romanin, 27 yo, shopkeeper and Ermenegilda Luzzatto, hosewife, both residing in Venice.

Erica
ery1 - 12 Set 2015 - 17:05
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I've found Romanin Guido in Military conscription lists (liste di leva) of the State Archives of Venice:
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Here's the research database:
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nmgarza811 - 12 Set 2015 - 20:23
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Wow! thank you. So if I am reading this right
Guido born July 21 1872 son of Arnoldo a professor and his wife Emilia
and I take that he was exempted because he was the only son. Is that right?
nmgarza811 - 12 Set 2015 - 22:43
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Here is Anna Romanin born August 29 1898. The only name I am seeing is her mother's name Ermenegilda Romanin. And it looks like Anna died May 7 1981 in Venice.
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elica - 13 Set 2015 - 23:45
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Anna Romanin was born on August 28, 1898, in Santa Croce n. 811, Venice.
Mother: Ermenegilda Romanin, 22 yo, housewife.
Father: a not mentioned unmarried man.

From the side notes:

Anna was then recognized as his own daughter by Guglielmo Klent (?) when he and her mother Ermenegilda got married on April 14, 1900, in Venice.

As you have already seen Anna died on May 7, 1981 in Venice,
nmgarza811 - 14 Set 2015 - 02:19
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Thank you!

This one is for Felice Romanin born Aug 22 1895.
Father is Vittorio Romanin and I do not see the mother's name. I do see what appears to be the date of death as May 22 1943 in Austria - I would assume in the war perhaps?
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ery1 - 14 Set 2015 - 11:14
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he was exempted because he was the only son. Is that right?

It would seem so...
You can request a copy to the State Archives of Venice.

Erica
ery1 - 14 Set 2015 - 11:28
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Felice Giuffrido Romanin born Aug 22 1895 in a house situated in Cannaregio at n5245 B.
His father was Vittorio Romanin, 34 yo, mechanician, residing in Venice and his mother was a not mentioned unmarried woman.

He was then recognized and legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents Virginia Girotti and Vittorio Romanin, celebrated on June 20 1905 in Venice.

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I do see what appears to be the date of death as May 22 1943 in Austria - I would assume in the war perhaps?

No, he died in Adria (Rovigo Province) on May 20 1943, during the WWII.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 14 Set 2015 - 18:35
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Thank you...again. How do I request the information from the State Archives? And I am wondering, do you know if they would have information on my grandfather who served with the navy during WWII? I recently found out that he was taken prisoner of war and escaped from the Germans and I would love to find out more information if possible.
nmgarza811 - 14 Set 2015 - 18:38
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This is Antonio Romanin born March 18 1894.
Father is Giuseppe age 29 and I do not see the mother's name.

Died May 5 1955. What are the other dates in the death date notification?
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ery1 - 14 Set 2015 - 19:35
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How do I request the information from the State Archives?

With a written request to the State Archives of Venice (attaching a copy of your ID), here's the address:
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You can use a form like this (filling it with all the info you have) but you should correct it by writing "copia della Lista di leva" instead of "copia del Foglio Matricolare":
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They will send you the copy upon payment of the costs of reproduction and shipping (through international money order):
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ery1 - 14 Set 2015 - 20:07
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And I am wondering, do you know if they would have information on my grandfather who served with the navy during WWII?

You can request his Military Service Record (Foglio matricolare), which for the Navy is held by Ministry of Defence, here's the address:
Persomil 12 Div. - Viale dellEsercito n.186 - 00143 Roma
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For information on prisoners of war, the Red Cross in Geneva has suspended the research service:
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But you can write to Italian Red Cross for a copy of the documentation about his imprisonment (you can download a form):
Croce Rossa Italiana
Ufficio Ricerche, RFL e Documentazione di Guerra
Via Toscana, 12 - 00187 Roma
Telefono: +39.06.4759384/5/6
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ery1 - 14 Set 2015 - 20:29
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This is Antonio Romanin born March 18 1894.

Yes, he was born in a house situated in Cannaregio (Venice) at n2277.

His father was Giuseppe, 49 yo, royal clerk and his mother Rosa Marini was housewife, both residing in Venice.

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Died May 5 1955. What are the other dates in the death date notification?

No, he died on may 5 1966 in Cadoneghe (Padova). Act n 9 part I year 1966, annotation of March 23 1970 (in Venice).

Erica
nmgarza811 - 15 Set 2015 - 10:12
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Royal Clerk? What was that exactly?

This is Tullio (?) Romanin born September 21 1894 to Vittorio Romanin.
Don't see the mother's name.
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ery1 - 15 Set 2015 - 13:01
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Correct! Tullio was born in a house situated in Castello (Venice) at n2486.
His father was Vittorio Romanin, 33 yo, mechanician, residing in Venice and his mother was a not mentioned unmarried woman.

It isn't written about a late recognition...

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Royal Clerk? What was that exactly?

I think he was an employee of the Imperial Royal Government of Venice, we don't know in which sector...maybe state property, customs...

Erica
nmgarza811 - 15 Set 2015 - 18:45
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Interesting....

So I have decided to take a break from birth records and try death records. I cannot make heads or tales of what I am looking at and there seems to be 3 different types of records? But I would appreciate help in learning how to read the death records...

So I came across this one for Carlo Canziani and I can see his parents names so I know he is a confirmed family member. But can you please translate the rest for me so I can get a feel for the records? I see the name Regina Pitteri but does it say who that is?
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dgionco - 15 Set 2015 - 19:44
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Carlo Canziani dead March 20th 1928
He was 9 days old.
Born and living in Venice.
Son of Nicola and Giulietta Bon
nmgarza811 - 15 Set 2015 - 22:59
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Thank you... I hate when I confirm a family member only to see they died as an infant. Heart breaking.

This one is Angelo Poletto, but again, not sure how to read these.
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ery1 - 15 Set 2015 - 23:14
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So I came across this one for Carlo Canziani and I can see his parents names so I know he is a confirmed family member. But can you please translate the rest for me so I can get a feel for the records? I see the name Regina Pitteri but does it say who that is?


The full text of the act is:
Death act n259

In the year 1928 on March 23rd at 3:10 PM in the town hall, in front of me Zuccari Dr. Cav. Ennio Director of the Civil Status and for approved delegation of March 27th 1916,Official of the Civil Status of Venice, have appeared Vittori Regina, 36 years old, housewife, residing in Venice and Canziani Nicola, 28 yo, carpenter, residing in Venice, which have declared me that at 9:30 PM of the 20th of the current month in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n1849 died Canziani Carlo, 9 days years old, residing in Venice, born in Venice to Nicola, carpenter, residing in Venice and Bon Giulietta, housewife, residing in Venice.
In this act were present as witnesses Munari Ettore, 46 years old, employee and Scarpa Mario, 21 years old, employee, residing both in this town.
Read this act to all participants they have signed it with me except the declarant illiterate (Regina Vittori).

We don't know if Regina is related to Carlo Canziani, she could be only a neighbor.

Erica
ery1 - 15 Set 2015 - 23:29
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Death act n31

Declarants: Poletto Silvio, 25 years old, turner, residing in Venice and Paresini Giovanni, 40 years old, usher, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 6:00 PM of yesterday (so January 9th) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n2736 died Poletto Angelo, 2 years old, residing in Venice, born in Venice to Tullio, liquor store operator, residing in Venice and Pesce Giacomina, housewife, residing in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 15 Set 2015 - 23:31
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Thank you Erica! That gives me an idea of where to find the date of death.

And I thought you might find this interesting. Someone in a Facebook group I belong to posted a list of well known names of Jewish Italian families, and Romanin is on the list. No idea!
nmgarza811 - 15 Set 2015 - 23:39
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So this one is Giovanna Canziani died in July 1928? I think these may take me a little longer to grasp on where to pull the details from.
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ery1 - 15 Set 2015 - 23:57
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And I thought you might find this interesting.

Yes, I put my knowledge of the English language to the test.

The Romanin were bankers in San Vito al Tagliamento already at the end of '500, I've found something about this Jewish family here:
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ery1 - 16 Set 2015 - 00:10
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Death act n614

Declarants: Tian Ruggero, 43 years old, laborer, residing in Venice and Bullo Luigi, 39 years old, usher, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 9:00 AM of today (so July 25th 1928) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n3050 died Canziani Giovanna, 83 years old, housewife, residing in Venice, born in Venice to the late Antonio and the late Costantin Teresa, widow of Tian Gaetano.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 16 Set 2015 - 00:11
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You are incredible!! I need to find someone to translate this for me. But I can see that it appears that the Romanins and The Luzzattos were connected even that far back. Seems to start supporting what my mother had been told all those many years ago. I wish she were alive for me to tell her.
nmgarza811 - 16 Set 2015 - 00:20
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So this is L Poletto (can't quite decipher the first name) who died Mar 27 1929?
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ery1 - 16 Set 2015 - 13:19
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Hi,
is this your genealogical tree?
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I've found what happened to Mario Romanin, son of Guido and Ermenegilda Luzzatto:
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Mario Romanin married Elena Ottolenghi (daughter of Silvio, a photographer) on September 3 1933 in Turin and they lived in Via Lagrange at n34.

On October 13 1938 in Turin was born their daughter Miriam.

In 1943 the family moved to Milan, where Mario thought there was less risk of being recognized as Jews.
They rented an apartment in Corso XXII Marzo and immediately began looking fo false documents.
They changed name to Rossi and Mario found a job in the insurance company called Assicurazioni Generali.

In 1944 the furniture of their home in Turin were seized.

One day of Febraury in 1945 he was stopped in Piazza Duomo and was taken to the German command at Hotel Regina.

He was locked in a cell for 7 days and suffered heavy interrogation, in order to coerce him to reveal where his family was hiding.
His family was temporarily in an apartment in Piazza Grandi, without food, and when Elena came back to take the cards (tessere annonarie) in the other apartment she and her daughter were captured and taken to the S. Vittore prison, the next day Germans brought there the rest of the family.

They remained there about 3 months and on April 25 1945 they were released.

Erica
ery1 - 16 Set 2015 - 13:31
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Death act n509

Declarants: Paresini Giovanni, 41 years old, usher, residing in Venice and Bullo Luigi, 40 years old, usher, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 7:00 PM of the 22nd of the current month (so on March 22nd 1929) in a house situated in Castello at n5357 died Poletto Lena, 3 years and 3 months old, residing in Venice, born in Venice to Romeo, sailor, residing in Venice and Martignon Maria, housewife, residing in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 16 Set 2015 - 18:10
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Yes, that is my tree but it should not be on Geni...I do not like that particular site. Bice Romanin was my great-grandmother.
You are amazing in finding out that information...I can't get the links to open the pages though...I will work on that. Now I really am dying to know if there is a connection...but I am glad to see that they survived.

I did find that there was a very well known Venetian historian named Samuel Romanin who was Jewish...it will be interesting to see if I can ever trace it back to him.

I wish there was some way I could repay you for all your kindness in helping me with this!
nmgarza811 - 16 Set 2015 - 18:38
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So here is Antonio Poletto died August 19 1929 (if it is the top date that is the death date) and it looks like he was 56.
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ery1 - 16 Set 2015 - 20:06
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it looks like he was 56. Ok!


Antonio Poletto died August 18 1929 in the Civic Hospital of Venice.
He was 56 yo, smith by profession, residing in Venice but born in Dolo.
He was son of Michele and Carraro Tecla and husband of Capriani Teresa.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 16 Set 2015 - 20:24
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So starting to see the same names and be able to get the complete picture for some of them..at least as far and dates.

This is Maria Poletto died August 26 1929. Or am I seeing that it is a recording a death from yesterday to make it the 25th?
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ery1 - 16 Set 2015 - 21:15
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This is Maria Poletto died August 26 1929. Or am I seeing that it is a recording a death from yesterday to make it the 25th?

Yes, correct!
She died in "Umberto Primo" Hospital, 10 months old, residing and born in Venice, daughter of Tullio, waiter, and Pesce Giacomina, housewife.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 17 Set 2015 - 00:16
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Sorry, which is correct? the 26th or the 25th?
ery1 - 17 Set 2015 - 00:33
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The 25th, It's written in Italian:
"...del giorno venticinque corrente nell'Ospitale Umberto Primo morta Poletto Maria...".

Erica
nmgarza811 - 17 Set 2015 - 00:49
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got it... so the correct date to search for is not the one at the top, but further down towards the bottom. That helps.
nmgarza811 - 17 Set 2015 - 05:34
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Okay, this is Marco Romanin died in 1925. Age 77.

This one is a little different so i am not sure where to grab the information from. Is Domenico his father?
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ery1 - 17 Set 2015 - 15:59
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Is Domenico his father? Yes


Declarants: Romanin Giovanni, 38 yo, employee, residing in Venice and Romanin Umberto, 47 yo, delivery agent, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 1:45 AM of today (so on June 19th 1925) in a house situated in Castello at n3022 died Romanin Marco, 77 yo, residing in Venice, born in Venice to the late Domenico and the late Simionato Maria, widower of Fantucci Apollonia.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 17 Set 2015 - 17:31
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I wish it said how the declarants were connected...I would guess sons, but you never know.

This is Angelina Poletto died August 1925.
Father is Angelo Poletto and mother is Margherita Bortolazzo ?.
Wife of Andrea Baiano ?
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ery1 - 17 Set 2015 - 19:52
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Romanin Marco was a retired employee of the Imperial Royal Government of Venice.

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This is Angelina Poletto died August 1925.
Father is Angelo Poletto and mother is Margherita Bortolazzo ?.
Wife of Andrea Baiano ? Ok!


Declarants: Nardo Francesco, 39 yo, guardian, residing in Venice and Dalla Venezia Filippo, 53 yo, laborer, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 2:00 PM of yesterday (so on August 4th 1925) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n2736 died Poletto Angelina, 31 yo, housewife, residing in Venice but born in Camin (Padova) to Angelo, innkeeper, residing in Venice and the late Bortolazzo Magherita, wife of Baiano Andrea.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 21 Set 2015 - 04:05
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Here is another Angelo Poletto who died in January 1926.

I feel like these death records are going to be difficult for me to figure...
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ery1 - 21 Set 2015 - 14:11
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Act n52

Declarants: Zancarlin Nicola, 47 yo, cook, residing in Venice and Zeno Luigi, 43 yo, deliverer, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 7:00 AM of yesterday (so on January 12 1926) in a house situated in San Polo at n652 died Poletto Angelo, 5 months old, residing in Venice and born in Venice to Adelchi, operator, residing in Venice and Bellesso Emilia, housewife, residing in Venice too.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 22 Set 2015 - 01:26
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Thank you!

Here is Ugo Romanin died in 1926. Parents are Guido and Ermenegilda Luzzatto.

Does it say the cause of death?
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ery1 - 22 Set 2015 - 13:55
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Death act n770

Declarants: Silva Leoni, 72 years old, railway agent, residing in Venice and Furlini Luigi, 43 years old, deliverer, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 6:20 PM of the day before yesterday (so on August 28th 1926) in a house situated in Cannaregio at n4814 died Romanin Ugo, 26 years old, employee, residing in Valdagno (Vicenza) but born in Venice to Guido, shopkeeper, residing in Venice and Luzzatto Ermenegilda, housewife, residing in Venice; he was unmarried.

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Does it say the cause of death? No, it doesn't.


Erica
nmgarza811 - 24 Set 2015 - 10:05
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Thank you!

And here is Maria Canziani died in May 1927. I really am having a hard time with these death records...I can't seem to make out the pattern of information. Frustrating.
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ery1 - 24 Set 2015 - 13:32
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Death act n383

Declarants: Pelliccioli Luigia, 59 years old, housewife, residing in Venice and Cesco Pia, 43 years old, housewife, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 4:00 PM of the day before yesterday (so on May 14th 1927) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n3717 died Canziani Maria Anna, 75 years old, a retired employee of the Imperial Royal Government of Venice.
She was residing and born in Venice to the late Nicol and the late Maisner Adelaide, widow of Schiavon Luigi.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 25 Set 2015 - 07:25
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Grazie!

And here is Eugenio Canziani died in 1917, but again, I can't make anything else out.
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ery1 - 25 Set 2015 - 13:23
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Death act n142 (Part II, Series B)

At 13:00 on January 24th 1927 in the Civic Hospital died Canziani Eugenio, 82 years old, a retired employee of the Imperial Royal Government of Venice.
He was residing and born in Venice to the late Nicol and the late Teardo Adelaide, widower of Pomo Giuditta.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 26 Set 2015 - 00:58
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Okay, question. I find it interesting that the last 2 Canzianis were employees of the Imperial Royal Government of Venice. and both fathers' were Nicolo. Can you please double check the mother's name on both? I feel like the mother should be the same.
ery1 - 26 Set 2015 - 13:25
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In one act it's written Maisner Adelaide and in the other Teardo Adelaide, but it can be the same person...
Who declared the death might have said a wrong surname, this has happened to me more than once.
You should look for their marriage act.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 01 Ott 2015 - 05:33
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Finally came across another.

Vittorio Romanin died 1927.
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ery1 - 01 Ott 2015 - 12:33
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Death act n1464 (Part II, Series B)

At 06:00 on November 27th 1927 in the Civic Hospital died Romanin Vittorio, 66 years old, collector by profession.
He was residing and born in Venice to the late Domenico and the late Simionato Maria, husband of Girotti Virginia.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 02 Ott 2015 - 08:02
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Thank you!

And here is Luigi Perdon died 1922. I believe his wife was Attilia de Venezia.
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ery1 - 02 Ott 2015 - 14:43
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And here is Luigi Perdon died 1922. I believe his wife was Attilia de Venezia. Correct!


Death act n747 (Part II, Series B)

At 14:00 on May 8th 1922 in the S. Marco Hospital situated in Isola di Sacca Sessola died Perdon Luigi, 47 years old, carpenter.
He was residing and born in Venice to Vincenzo and the late Brazzoduro Barbara, husband of Da Venezia Attilia.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 02 Ott 2015 - 22:46
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And this one is fro Rosa Canziani also died in 1922.
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ery1 - 03 Ott 2015 - 14:52
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Death act n1416 (Part II, Series B)

At 07:00 on November 6th 1922 in the Almshouse of Venice died Canziani Rosa, 73 years old, in-patient.
She was residing and born in Venice to the late Alessandro and the late Zennaro Gioseffa, widow in first marriage of Corrado Giovanni and in second marriage of Gardazzo Vincenzo.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 04 Ott 2015 - 03:04
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Almshouse? Like a poor house or shelter?
nmgarza811 - 04 Ott 2015 - 09:05
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Here is Aldo Canziani died in 1923. Still can't figure out these records....
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ery1 - 04 Ott 2015 - 14:30
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Almshouse? Like a poor house or shelter?

Like a poor house, in Italian "Ospizio di mendicit".


Death act n563

Declarants: Schiavolin Giacomo, 43 years old, boatman, residing in Venice and Gubatti Giuseppe, 49 years old, boatman, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 9:00 AM of today (so on May 3rd 1923) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n2282 died Canziani Aldo, 2 years old.
He was residing and born in Venice to Luigi (I think his profession "rimessaio" stands for a sort of boatkeeper) and Cortella Giuseppina, housewife, both residing in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 05 Ott 2015 - 12:59
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Okay, and here is Giovanni Canziani died June 23 1923. Father Alessandro and mother Giuseffina Zennaro. Wife Maria ?

Am I close?
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ery1 - 05 Ott 2015 - 13:27
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Okay, and here is Giovanni Canziani died June 23 1923. Father Alessandro and mother Giuseffina Zennaro. Wife Maria ?

Am I close? Yes, that's right!


He died at 23:15 PM in S.Marco Hospital situated in Isola di Sacca Sessola, 67 yo, longshoreman by profession.
He was born and residing in Venice, widower of Giusti Maria.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 05 Ott 2015 - 23:15
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Awesome! There might be hope for me after all with these death records.
nmgarza811 - 06 Ott 2015 - 09:50
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Here is Maria Canziani died in August 1923. Do I see that she was the daughter of Natale and Elisa Canziani?
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ery1 - 06 Ott 2015 - 12:07
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Here is Maria Canziani died in August 1923. Do I see that she was the daughter of Natale and Elisa Canziani? Ok, very well!


Death act n828

Declarants: Bevilacqua Gaetano, 58 years old, poulterer, residing in Venice and Ballarin Carlo, 58 years old, usher, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 8:00 PM of the day before yesterday (so on August 4th 1923) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n1836 A died Canziani Maria, 1 years old.

Her father Natale was seller of dishes by profession and her mother housewife, both residing in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 08 Ott 2015 - 01:36
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And here is Mafalda Poletto died November 13 1923. Father Antonio and mother Teresa Capriani.
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ery1 - 08 Ott 2015 - 12:12
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Death act n1130

Declarants: Poletto Antonio, 50 years old, smith, residing in Venice and D'Andrea Angelo, 70 years old, retired, residing in Venice.
They have declared that at 10:30 AM of yesterday (so on November 12th 1923) in a house situated in Dorsoduro at n1476 B died Poletto Mafalda, 2 months old.
She was born and residing in Venice.

Her father Antonio was smith by profession and her mother Teresa Capriani housewife, both residing in Venice.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 14 Ott 2015 - 21:16
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If I can read this corretly it is Liliana Romanin died June 20 1924. Father Cesare and I can't make out the mom's name.
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ery1 - 14 Ott 2015 - 21:29
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Death act n799 (Part II, Series B)

At 12:30 on June 19th (It's written: "del giorno diciannove corrente") 1924 in the Civic Hospital died Romanin Liliana, 5 months old.
She was residing and born in Venice to Cesare and Talenti Gemma.

Erica
nmgarza811 - 25 Gen 2016 - 10:22
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Hello! I know it has been quite a while since I have written. I've had a hard time lately wanting to conduct research after my mom's death. I miss being able to share new information with her. But I miss it, so here goes. I hope you will continue to help me.

Decided to try my hand at marriage records.

Here is Mario Romanin and Giovanna Simioni married October 20, 1928.
Mario age 29, son of Vittorio and Virginia Girotti
Giovanna 31, daughter of Alessandro and Maria Bellemo?

Am I close?
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emanuele1 - 25 Gen 2016 - 11:07
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You are right! Except for Maria which is BELLOMO and not Bellemo...
nmgarza811 - 25 Gen 2016 - 11:20
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Wow!! Thank you for the confirmation! Now to look at others. Thank you.
nmgarza811 - 03 Feb 2016 - 08:29
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Here is Mario Canziani and Margherita Scarpa married September 29, 1929

Maria, age 24 son of Vittorio Canziani and Oliva Rossari
Margherita age 21, can't make out the names of her parents.
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ery1 - 03 Feb 2016 - 13:24
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The act is transcribed following a note from the San Cassiano martire parish (Venice), where the marriage took place.

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Mario Canziani and Margherita Scarpa married October 27, 1929
Mario, age 24 son of Vittorio Canziani (called also Canciani) and Oliva Rossari
Margherita age 22, daughter of Sante and Torbassi (called Gaggetta) Angela


Erica
nmgarza811 - 05 Feb 2016 - 01:50
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Thank you! Here is a death record for Giovanna Romanin died in 1871. I cannot make out any of the writing at all.
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nmgarza811 - 19 Feb 2016 - 09:05
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Have I pushed the limits in asking for help? I sincerely hope not...this group has been amazing!
ziadani - 19 Feb 2016 - 09:29
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No, sorry!

Giovanna Romanin, age 10 months
father Giorgio, carpenter
mother Fortunata LANZA

dead 19 settembre 1871, h. 11,00
house 1687, San Giacomo dell'Orto
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