ho trovato questo, potrebbe essere la figlia di Carlo/luigi; sappiamo che Frank/Francesco viveva con lo zio Giuseppe; ma la figlia potrebbe essere questa:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Kathrine Bethardy
Name: Kathrine Bethardy
Home in 1930: Harpersfield, Ashtabula, Ohio
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Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1915
Birthplace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Camilla Talone 58 ( Camillo o Carmelo)
Mary Talone 50
Kathrine Bethardy 15
figlia di italiani, risulta nipote dei Talone...
Camillo/Carmelo Talone nel 1920 era a Cleveland:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Commella Tolone
Name: Commella Tolone
[Connor Ella Talone]
[Conner Tolone]
Home in 1920: Cleveland Ward 9, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Roomer
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1901
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J De Parse 69
Mike De Parse 24
John De Parse 22
Dominick Franklin 66
Leonard Franklin 62
Commella Tolone 47
Domonic Tolone 21
John Botto 34
Dominic Tolliechio 34
Dominic Addonio 60
Louis Socie 53
John Pholen 50
Jacob Wamser 60
In effetti si chiamava Camillo Tallone che con la moglie Domenica e Domenico ( figlio.. fratello??) si recano a Cleveland nel 1916:
il manifesto non è molto leggibile..
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Camillo Tallone
Name: Camillo Tallone
Arrival Date: 24 Oct 1916
Age: 42
Birth Date: abt 1874
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Male
Port of Arrival: Lewiston, New York, USA
in qualche modo dovevano rientrare nella storia di carlo Berardi, perchè ha affidato loro la figlia che hanno fatto passare come nipote...
suanj
Alla ricerca dei fratelli del mio bisnonno Berardi in USA
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eh svelato l'arcano ancora...
la (seconda) moglie di Camillo Talone era Maria Domenica Berardi sorella di Carlo, Giuseppe e Rosa: questo è il dato di morte
Name: Mary Talone
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 19 Jan 1936
Death Place: Geneva Village, Ashtabula, Ohio
Birth Date:
Estimated Birth Year: 1881
Birthplace: Italy
Death Age: About 55 years
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Race or Color: American
Street Address:
Occupation: Housewife
Residence: R.F.D. Geneva, Ohio
Burial Date: 22 Jan 1936
Burial Place: Geneva
Cemetery Name:
Spouse's Name: Comwills Talone
Father's Name: Angelo Bethartie
Father's Title & Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Film Number: 2022607
Digital Folder Number: 4020682
Image Number: 219
Certificate Number: fn 195
Collection: Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953
sul censimento hanno scritto grandaughter invece che niece...
suanj
la (seconda) moglie di Camillo Talone era Maria Domenica Berardi sorella di Carlo, Giuseppe e Rosa: questo è il dato di morte
Name: Mary Talone
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 19 Jan 1936
Death Place: Geneva Village, Ashtabula, Ohio
Birth Date:
Estimated Birth Year: 1881
Birthplace: Italy
Death Age: About 55 years
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Race or Color: American
Street Address:
Occupation: Housewife
Residence: R.F.D. Geneva, Ohio
Burial Date: 22 Jan 1936
Burial Place: Geneva
Cemetery Name:
Spouse's Name: Comwills Talone
Father's Name: Angelo Bethartie
Father's Title & Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Film Number: 2022607
Digital Folder Number: 4020682
Image Number: 219
Certificate Number: fn 195
Collection: Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953
sul censimento hanno scritto grandaughter invece che niece...
suanj
Ultima modifica di suanj il mercoledì 11 agosto 2010, 22:06, modificato 2 volte in totale.
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il marito di Maria Domenica Berardi: Camillo Tallone
Name: Camillo Talone
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 29 Oct 1936
Death Place: Geneva Ashtabula, Ohio
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1875
Estimated Birth Year:
Birthplace: Italy
Death Age: 61 years 3 months 14 days
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Race or Color: American
Street Address: R.F.D.# 3
Occupation: Retired
Residence: Geneva, Ohio
Burial Date: 31 Oct 1936
Burial Place: Geneva, Ohio
Cemetery Name:
Spouse's Name: Mary Talone
Father's Name: Dominic Talone
Father's Title & Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Antoisietre Marcallia
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Film Number: 2022691
Digital Folder Number: 4122462
Image Number: 2816
Certificate Number: fn 60771
Collection: Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953
Name: Camillo Talone
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 29 Oct 1936
Death Place: Geneva Ashtabula, Ohio
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1875
Estimated Birth Year:
Birthplace: Italy
Death Age: 61 years 3 months 14 days
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Race or Color: American
Street Address: R.F.D.# 3
Occupation: Retired
Residence: Geneva, Ohio
Burial Date: 31 Oct 1936
Burial Place: Geneva, Ohio
Cemetery Name:
Spouse's Name: Mary Talone
Father's Name: Dominic Talone
Father's Title & Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Antoisietre Marcallia
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Film Number: 2022691
Digital Folder Number: 4122462
Image Number: 2816
Certificate Number: fn 60771
Collection: Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953
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Piero,
puoi aggiungere ai records anche il 1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Brody
Name: Joseph Brody
[Joseph Beody]
[Joseph Berdy]
Home in 1920: Cleveland Ward 16, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1914
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Brody 42
Mary Brody 40
Frank Brody 20
Arthur Brody 21
indirizzo 3026 East 125 Street.
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Laura
puoi aggiungere ai records anche il 1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Brody
Name: Joseph Brody
[Joseph Beody]
[Joseph Berdy]
Home in 1920: Cleveland Ward 16, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1914
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Brody 42
Mary Brody 40
Frank Brody 20
Arthur Brody 21
indirizzo 3026 East 125 Street.
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eh.....suanj ha scritto:Ciao Piero, manca all'appello Rosa, l'altra sorella... il cognome era realmente storpiato, e grazie a Laura che ha dato l'input del cognome si è trovato quanto possibile...
ciao,
suanj
trovata anche lei!dal database: Ohio Marriges, 1800-1958
Groom's name: Angelo Delia
Groom's birth date: 1879
Groom's birth place: Italy
Groom's age: 26
Bride's name: Rosa Berarda
Bride's birth date: 1880
Bride's birth place: Italy
Bride's age: 25
Marrige date: 15 july 1905
Marriage place: Cuyahoga, Ohio
Groom's father's name: Giorgio
Groom's mother's name: Rosaria Cruppa
Bride's father's name: Angelo Berarda
Bride's mother's name: Catherina Bionchi
aggiungo:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Dali
Name: Angelo Dali
[Angelo Dall]
Age in 1910: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Rosy B
Home in 1910: Cleveland Ward 13, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1900
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Dali 30 capofamiglia
Rosy B Dali 29 moglie, nata in IT
Mary Dali 3 figlia, nata in OH
Catherine Dali 2 figlia, nata in OH
Filomena Dali 9/12 figlia, nata in OH
Louis Barardo 34 Abbordante (probabilmente è Carlo), nato in IT, sposato da 8 anni, immigrato nel 1906, sarto
Frank Datani 27 abbordante, nato in IT
indririzzo 1211 Broadway street.
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Rosa ebbe tanti figli:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Delia
Name: Angelo Delia
Home in 1920: Harpersfield, Ashtabula, Ohio
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Rose
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1900
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Delia 40
Rose Delia 39
Mary Delia 13
Katherine Delia 12
Fanny Delia 10
George Delia 8
Joseph Delia 7
Frank Delia 5
James Delia 2
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Id#: 0473754
Name: Delia, Angelo
Date: Jul 7 1968
Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #103.
Notes: Delia. Angelo Delia, beloved husband of the late Rose (nee Bethardy), dear father of George E., Joseph A., Frank, James and the late Catherine, Mary Petrucelli, and Fannie Coertnik, grandfather and great-grandfather. Services at The Scerba Funeral Home, 13430 Madison Ave. Monday at 1 p.m. Visit Ation Sunday 2-9 P.M.
la figlia di Rosa Fanny/Filomena Delia è morta giovane:
Id#: 0460858
Name: Coertnik, Fannie (Delia)
Date: ? 1954
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #100.
Notes: Coertnik, Fannie (Delia), late residence, 17313 Woodbury Ave., beloved wife of Albert, dear mother of Billy, loving daughter of Angelo and the late Rose (nee Berardi), sister of Mary Petrucelli, George, Joseph, Frank and James. Friends received at Corrigan's Funeral Home, Lorain Ave. at W. 148th St. (Until 10:30 A. M. Wednesday) and at the West Park Baptist Church (13218 Lorain Ave.) where services will be held Wednesday, Jan. 13, at 1:30 p. m.
Laura
1920 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Delia
Name: Angelo Delia
Home in 1920: Harpersfield, Ashtabula, Ohio
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Rose
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1900
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Delia 40
Rose Delia 39
Mary Delia 13
Katherine Delia 12
Fanny Delia 10
George Delia 8
Joseph Delia 7
Frank Delia 5
James Delia 2
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Id#: 0473754
Name: Delia, Angelo
Date: Jul 7 1968
Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #103.
Notes: Delia. Angelo Delia, beloved husband of the late Rose (nee Bethardy), dear father of George E., Joseph A., Frank, James and the late Catherine, Mary Petrucelli, and Fannie Coertnik, grandfather and great-grandfather. Services at The Scerba Funeral Home, 13430 Madison Ave. Monday at 1 p.m. Visit Ation Sunday 2-9 P.M.
la figlia di Rosa Fanny/Filomena Delia è morta giovane:
Id#: 0460858
Name: Coertnik, Fannie (Delia)
Date: ? 1954
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #100.
Notes: Coertnik, Fannie (Delia), late residence, 17313 Woodbury Ave., beloved wife of Albert, dear mother of Billy, loving daughter of Angelo and the late Rose (nee Berardi), sister of Mary Petrucelli, George, Joseph, Frank and James. Friends received at Corrigan's Funeral Home, Lorain Ave. at W. 148th St. (Until 10:30 A. M. Wednesday) and at the West Park Baptist Church (13218 Lorain Ave.) where services will be held Wednesday, Jan. 13, at 1:30 p. m.
Laura
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Piero, scusami ma ti devo sommergere di dati.... poi te li riordini 
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Un'altra figlia di Rosa Berardi Delia è morta giovane:
Name Kathryn Delia
Death date 25 Jan 1936
Death place Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date 15 Oct 1907
Birth place Cleveland, O
Age at death 28 years 3 months 10 days
Gender Female
Marital status Single
Race or color American
Street address 3017 E. 123rd St.
Occupation Knitter, Wovenright Co
Burial date 28 Jan 1936
Cemetery name Highland Park
Father name Angelo Delia
Father birth place Italy
Mother name Rose Berardi
Mother birth place Italy
GSU film number 2022607
Digital GS number 4020682
Image number 1885
Reference number fn 1708
immagine:
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Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953 for Rose Delia
Name Rose Delia
Death date 05 Feb 1941
Death place Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date 25 Jan 1882
Birth place Italy
Age at death 59 years 1 month 20 days
Gender Female
Marital status Married
Race or color Caucasian
Street address 3017 E. 123 St.
Occupation Housewife
Burial date 08 Feb 1941
Cemetery name Highland Park
Spouse name Angelo Delia
Father name Angelo Berardi
Father birth place Italy
Mother name Catherine Bianchi
Mother birth place Italy
GSU film number 2023892
Digital GS number 4046412
Image number 382
Reference number fn 9011
immagine:
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Id#: 0473761
Name: Delia, James
Date: Mar 26 1972
Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #103.
Notes: Delia. James Delia, beloved son of the late Angate and Rose (nee Bethardy), dear brother of George E., Joseph A., Frank R. and the late Catherine, Mary Petrucelli and Fonnie Coerlnik (deceased). Services at The Scarbe Funeral Home, 13430 Madison Ave., Monday at 1 p.m. Visitation Sunday 2-4 And 7-9 P.M.
..Un'altra figlia di Rosa Berardi Delia è morta giovane:
Name Kathryn Delia
Death date 25 Jan 1936
Death place Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date 15 Oct 1907
Birth place Cleveland, O
Age at death 28 years 3 months 10 days
Gender Female
Marital status Single
Race or color American
Street address 3017 E. 123rd St.
Occupation Knitter, Wovenright Co
Burial date 28 Jan 1936
Cemetery name Highland Park
Father name Angelo Delia
Father birth place Italy
Mother name Rose Berardi
Mother birth place Italy
GSU film number 2022607
Digital GS number 4020682
Image number 1885
Reference number fn 1708
immagine:
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Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953 for Rose Delia
Name Rose Delia
Death date 05 Feb 1941
Death place Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date 25 Jan 1882
Birth place Italy
Age at death 59 years 1 month 20 days
Gender Female
Marital status Married
Race or color Caucasian
Street address 3017 E. 123 St.
Occupation Housewife
Burial date 08 Feb 1941
Cemetery name Highland Park
Spouse name Angelo Delia
Father name Angelo Berardi
Father birth place Italy
Mother name Catherine Bianchi
Mother birth place Italy
GSU film number 2023892
Digital GS number 4046412
Image number 382
Reference number fn 9011
immagine:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxxd0jJ
Id#: 0473761
Name: Delia, James
Date: Mar 26 1972
Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #103.
Notes: Delia. James Delia, beloved son of the late Angate and Rose (nee Bethardy), dear brother of George E., Joseph A., Frank R. and the late Catherine, Mary Petrucelli and Fonnie Coerlnik (deceased). Services at The Scarbe Funeral Home, 13430 Madison Ave., Monday at 1 p.m. Visitation Sunday 2-4 And 7-9 P.M.
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Piero guarda, qualcuno ha creato su Ancestry.com un piccolo albero per un figlio di Angelo Berardi:
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allo stesso indirizzo, se guardi bene l'immagine vedrai che abitava la sorella Rosa con il marito Angelo:Suanj ha scritto: 1930 United States Federal Census about Louis Bethardy
Name: Louis Bethardy
Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
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Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Bethardy
54
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fa sempre il sarto... stesso indirizzo....
1930 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Delia
Name: Angelo Delia
Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
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Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Delia 51
Rose Delia 49
Mary Delia 23
Catherine Delia 22
Tannie Delia 20
George Delia 19
Joseph Delia 17
Frank Delia 15
James Delia 12
Laura