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Stavo riflettendo riguardo a marjorie Mattie nata il 23 /02/1923 potrebbe essere ancora vivente e avere 86 anni.Se poi avesse fratelli o sorelle più giovani ancora meglio.Naturalmente anche figli e nipoti coetanei con la mia generazione o quella di mio figlio che ne ha 26 o di mio padre che ne ha 80 Paola
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Paola,
ho appena spedito al tuo indirizzo di posta elettronica e a quello di Thomas il "riassunto" che ho fatto....
Sono un sacco di dati, lo so, spero che Thom ci si raccapezzi....
Ora dobbiamo concentrare la ricerca su
la figlia di Frank/Francesco...
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marjorie Mattie
Name: Marjorie Mattie
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1923
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Scacchi
Birth County: Contra Costa
i possibili discendenti di Bruna:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Lena Bruna Cesa
Name: Lena Bruna Cesa
[Lena Bruna Mattie]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1904
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 30 Oct 1997
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Zammarkie
Father's Surname: Mattie
e anche i possibili discendenti di Mary ....
dal censimento del 1920:
George Marttie 36, head, born in Italy
Ida An Marttie 35 wife, born in IT
Mary Marttie 17 daughter, born in New York
Lena Marttie 15 daughter, born in Massachusetts
Alice Marttie 5 daughter, born in California
Alba Marttie 11/12 daughter, born in California
Frank Marttie 21 son, born in New York
Melba Marttie 19 son’s wife, born in California to Italian parents
Io ho 42 anni.... ma tu abiti a Lucca?
Laura
ho appena spedito al tuo indirizzo di posta elettronica e a quello di Thomas il "riassunto" che ho fatto....
Sono un sacco di dati, lo so, spero che Thom ci si raccapezzi....
Ora dobbiamo concentrare la ricerca su
la figlia di Frank/Francesco...
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marjorie Mattie
Name: Marjorie Mattie
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1923
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Scacchi
Birth County: Contra Costa
i possibili discendenti di Bruna:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Lena Bruna Cesa
Name: Lena Bruna Cesa
[Lena Bruna Mattie]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1904
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 30 Oct 1997
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Zammarkie
Father's Surname: Mattie
e anche i possibili discendenti di Mary ....
dal censimento del 1920:
George Marttie 36, head, born in Italy
Ida An Marttie 35 wife, born in IT
Mary Marttie 17 daughter, born in New York
Lena Marttie 15 daughter, born in Massachusetts
Alice Marttie 5 daughter, born in California
Alba Marttie 11/12 daughter, born in California
Frank Marttie 21 son, born in New York
Melba Marttie 19 son’s wife, born in California to Italian parents
Io ho 42 anni.... ma tu abiti a Lucca?
Laura
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NO abito nella provincia di Pisa.Siccome Primo era un militare era di stanza a Iglesias in sardegna.Dopo la sua morte la moglie e itre figli si sono trasferiti a Livorno e hanno però incontrato le loro mogli nella provincia di pisa . Ecco in breve la storia.Naturalmente il loro trasferimento è stato per lavoro.Questo accade ancora oggi per i giovani sardi.Paola
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Scusate l'intromissione, non ho seguito tutto il vostro discorso, ma visto che avete nominato i caduti per la costruzione del Tunnel del Sempione, mi sono ricordata che un po' di tempo fa, mentre cercavo il fratello di un parente, avevo trovato un sito con la lapide dove sono incisi i nomi. I nomi Antonini e Dallera là non ci sono.
Appena ritrovo il sito lo inserisco così se interessa anche ad altre persone lo potranno vedere.
Ada
Appena ritrovo il sito lo inserisco così se interessa anche ad altre persone lo potranno vedere.
Ada
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Grazie mille Ada!!!
Sarebbe utile.... Però il nome che dovrebbe esserci è quello di Michele Baldini.....
Anche se oggi ho letto che non proprio tutti i caduti furono scritti sulla lapide... tanti morirono dopo, magari per le ferite riportate o per malattia....
Magari fosse lì il nome di Michele!
Grazie
Laura
Sarebbe utile.... Però il nome che dovrebbe esserci è quello di Michele Baldini.....
Anche se oggi ho letto che non proprio tutti i caduti furono scritti sulla lapide... tanti morirono dopo, magari per le ferite riportate o per malattia....
Magari fosse lì il nome di Michele!
Grazie
Laura
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Purtroppo Marjorie è morta nel 2001:Pink67 ha scritto:la figlia di Frank/Francesco...
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marjorie Mattie
Name: Marjorie Mattie
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1923
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Scacchi
Birth County: Contra Costa
Social Security Death Index
about Marjorie Rodella
Name: Marjorie Rodella
SSN:
Last Residence: 94509 Antioch, Contra Costa, California, United States of America
Born: 23 Feb 1923
Died: 22 May 2001
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

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Ada,uantiti ha scritto:Sì, c'è un Baldini Michele da Sant'Arcangelo, credo sia la persona che cercate.
In effetti sulla lapide sono elencati 58 caduti mentre appunto in totale furono più di cento contando anche quelli morti per malattia, ecc.
Ada
mi son quasi ribaltata dalla sedia!!!!

E' LUI!!!!! Erano di Sant'Arcangelo di Romagna,... è morto proprio nei lavori di costruzione del Tunnel??????

Laura
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Wow, sono contenta per voi così adesso avete la conferma. Io non avevo seguito tutto quindi pensavo cercaste gli altri due nomi.
Purtroppo non riesco a trovare quel sito, io ho salvato su un mio file la foto della lapide per questo ho potuto leggere i nomi, comunqwue questa lapide è ad Iselle(VB). Accidenti chissà perchè non mi sono scritta dove avevo trovato questa foto, ricordo solo che era una ricerca di un gruppo di ragazzi di un liceo. Cercherò ancora così almeno lo vedrete.
Ciao
Ada
Purtroppo non riesco a trovare quel sito, io ho salvato su un mio file la foto della lapide per questo ho potuto leggere i nomi, comunqwue questa lapide è ad Iselle(VB). Accidenti chissà perchè non mi sono scritta dove avevo trovato questa foto, ricordo solo che era una ricerca di un gruppo di ragazzi di un liceo. Cercherò ancora così almeno lo vedrete.
Ciao
Ada
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grazie Ada anche da parte mia .Oggi grazie perchè ho conosciuto un'altra pagina della storia che non conoscevo"Il Tunnel del Sempione"e tutto il sacrificio di vite umane per realizzarlo.Stasera sono abbattuta perchè credo di essere in ritardo per la mia ricerca.Penso che tutte le persone che potevano avere memoria dei fatti sono ormai morte e i più giovani forse non sanno nulla.Comunque Laura speriamo che ci sia in vita almeno un figlio/a di Maria che ,se non sbaglio,non abbiamo ancora trovato. Paola
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Ho deciso di riportare qui i dati che ho trascritto per Thomas in inglese..... si sa mai che li legga qualcuno della famiglia.... Ometto i dati piu' recenti per evitare di incappare in problemi di privacy....
Baldini Felice (born on 1856) his wife Clerice Camminati (born on 1855) and their child:
1. Claudia Baldini (female, born on 1890)
2. Ida Baldini (female, born on. 1893)
3. Florido Baldini (male born on 1895)
4. Verino Baldini (male, born on 1897)
5. Debora Baldini (female, born on 1899)
Them both arrived at the port of NYC on October 31, 1903. Last residence in Italy Sant’Arcangelo di Romagna – Rimini Province – Emilia Romagna Region
In the year 1910 Felice was living in Portsmouth New Hampshire
1910 United States Federal Census
about Falica Baldina
Name: Falica Baldina
[Faleca Baldina]
Age in 1910: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Clereice
Home in 1910: Portsmouth Ward 5, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1903
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Falica Baldina 54 capofamiglia,
Clereice Baldina 50 moglie
Ida Baldina 18 figlia
Florioto Baldina 15 figlio (Florido)
Florence Baldina 11 figlia (Debora)
Then , I found on your tree that Felice died on 1912….
His children:
1. Claudia Baldini
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
Southwest Europe
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Claudia Baldini
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 23 NOV 1890 Santacangelo, , , Italy
Christening:
Death: 02 MAR 1986 Contra Costa County, Antioch, Contra Costa, California
Burial: Holy Cross Cemetery
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Parents:
Father: Felice Baldini
Mother: Clerice Camminati
Here the censuses I found on ancestry.com:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Mauro Celice
Name: Mauro Celice (possible lastname was misspelled)
[Mauro Calice]
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Glaudia
Home in 1910: Portsmouth Ward 5, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1910
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mauro Celice 22 head
Glaudia Celice 20 wife
Laura Celice 20 sister
1930 United States Federal Census
about Mauro Calisesi
Name: Mauro Calisesi
Home in 1930: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
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Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Claudia
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mauro Calisesi 43 capofamiglia, sposato all'età di 23 anni, immigr. nel 1907
Claudia Calisesi 39 moglie, sposata all'età di 19 anni, immigr. nel 1905
Eros Calisesi 19 figlio, nato nel New Hampshire
Edmond Calisesi 18 , figlio, nato nel New Hampshire
Vergil Calisesi 9 , figlio, nato nel New Hampshire
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Claudia Calisesi
Name: Claudia Calisesi
[Claudia Baldini]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1890
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 2 Mar 1987
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Camminati
Father's Surname: Baldini
Her husband:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Mauro P Calisesi
Name: Mauro P Calisesi
Social Security
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 21 Jan 1964
Death Place: Contra Costa
2. Ida Baldini
????
3. Florido Baldini
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Florido Baldini
Name: Florido Baldini
County: Rockingham
State: New Hampshire
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1896
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1711854
DraftBoard: 2
He was living in Epping- Rockingham County - NH he was single, occupation Shoe maker.
1920 United States Federal Census
about Florio Baldini
Name: Florio Baldini
[Floris Baldini]
Home in 1920: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
Age: 24 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Josephine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1903
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 461
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Florio Baldini 24 capofamiglia, nato in IT, immigr. nel 1903
Josephine Baldini 22 moglie, nata nel New Hampshire da genitori italiani
Florido Baldini died on October 30, 1929
Link to the image: http://img35.imageshack.us/i/cade90baldin0.jpg/
4. Verino Baldini
????????
5. Debora / Florence Baldini
????????
On January 28, 1905 these two families landed in NYC:
Daltero? Alfredo (age 26, born on 1879) his wife Elvira Baldini (age 24, born on 1881) and their little daughter Emma (9 months, born on 1904)
Them both stated Faenza – Ravenna Province – Emilia Romagna Region as last residence in Italy.
And
Antonini Giovanni (age 37, born on 1868) his wife Emilia Baldini (age 22, born on 1883) and their child Francesco (age 4, born on 1901), twin sisters Maria and Rosa (age 2, born on 1903) and Bruna (4 months, born on 1904)
Them both stated Riga as last residence…. I suppose it was Riga in Switzerland
• Elvira Baldini
Military enlistment for the First World War for Alfredo:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Alfredo Dallero
Name: Alfredo Dallero
County: Rockingham
State: New Hampshire
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1878
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1711853
DraftBoard: 1
He was living in 93 Deer street.
Military Enlistment for the Second World War:
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Alfredo Dallero
Name: Alfredo Dallero
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1878
Birth Place: Alfonsini Di
Residence: Rockingham, New Hampshire
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2368017
On this document he stated he was born in Alfonsina di Romagna – Ravenna Province- Emilia Romagna Region…
He was living in 232 Deer street..
Thom, I believe the correct spell of Alfredo’s lastname was Dall’Ara/Dallari… in fact Dallero/Dal Lero doesn’t exist in Italy
1910 United States Federal Census
about Alfred Delero
Name: Alfred Delero
Age in 1910: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Portsmouth Ward 5, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Delero 32 head, born in IT
Alvina Delero 25 (Elvira) wife, born in IT
Emma Delero 7 daughter, born in Italy
Michelle Delero 5 son, born in Massachusetts
Bertrande Delero 3 son, born in Massachusetts
Lets Delero 2 daughter, born in Massachusetts
Leonado Procardio 22 boarder
address was 113 Russel street
1920 United States Federal Census
about Alphedo Dallew
Name: Alphedo Dallew
[Alpheda Dellow]
Home in 1920: Epping, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Age: 41 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Elvira
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1905
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 791
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alphedo Dallew 41 capofamiglia, nato in IT
Elvira Dallew 36 moglie, nata in IT
Emma Dallew 16 figlia, nata in Svizzera
Mickelena Dallew 14 figlia, nata in NH
Oberdan Dallew 12 figlio, nato in NH
Tena Dallew 10 figlia, nata in NH
Sarah Dallew 8 figlia, nata in NH
Larinda Dallew 6 figlia, nata in NH
Delmo Dallew 2 7/12 figlio, nato in NH
1930 United States Federal Census
about Alfredo Del Lero
Name: Alfredo Del Lero
Home in 1930: Portsmouth, Rockingham, New Hampshire
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Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Alvera
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfredo Del Lero 52 head, born in IT, married at the age of 21, year of immigr. 1905 - Shoemaker
Alvera Del Lero 48 wife, born in IT, married at the age of 17, year of immigr. 1905
Emma Angelides 26 daughter, born in Switzerland, year of immigr. 1905
Norma Carbone 24 daughter, born in New Hampshire
Armando D Del Lero 21 son, born in New Hampshire
Leada Del Lero 19 daughter, born in New Hampshire
Londa Del Lero 16 daughter, born in new Hampshire
Delmo Del Lero 14 son, born in new Hampshire
Louise Angelides 4 10/12 grand-daughter, born in Maine, place of birth of father Greece
• Emilia Baldini
Found out that Emilia/Amelia Baldini Antonini settled for first in Massachusetts:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Giovani Antonino
Name: Giovani Antonino
Age in 1910: 43
[42]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
[abt 1868]
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Melia
Home in 1910: Lawrence Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1905
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Giovani Antonino 43 head, born in IT
[42]
Melia Antonino 27 wife, born in IT
Frank Antonino 10 son, born in IT
Mary Antonino 7 daughter, born in IT
Burns Antonino 6 daughter, born in IT
From this moment I found many difficulties finding them in subsequential censuses or ducuments….But…..
Giovanni and Emilia Antonini had another daughter in Massachusetts because I found this death certificate:
http://img205.imageshack.us/i/42831801551.jpg/
and possible one of the two twin sisters died…(Rosa Antonini)
After exentisve searches on Ancestry com I believe that maybe Giovanni Antonini died between 1910 and 1920, Emilia remarried another man and ended up in California following her sister Claudia Calisesi and brother Florido…
I know (from Paola) that Emilia was born on March 28, 1882 and married Giovanni Antonini on June 30, 1898 in Italy….
This is an interesting date I found:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Amelia Mattie
Name: Amelia Mattie
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 6 Apr 1964
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Baldini
I believe this is Emilia/Amelia Baldini (Elvira’s sister and Felice’s daughter
This is an interesting 1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census
about George Marttie
Name: George Marttie
[George Mattie]
Home in 1920: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
Age: 36 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ida An
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1890
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 457
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Marttie 36, head, born in Italy
Ida An Marttie 35 wife, born in IT
Mary Marttie 17 daughter, born in New York
Lena Marttie 15 daughter, born in Massachusetts
Alice Marttie 5 daughter, born in California
Alba Marttie 11/12 daughter, born in California
Frank Marttie 21 son, born in New York
Melba Marttie 19 son’s wife, born in California to Italian parents
Maybe Amelia/Emilia “cheated” on their child’s birth places…. However she was living in Massachusetts… Have you noticed that in the 1910 census for Alfredo and Elvira Dallero them both stated their first child were born in Massachusetts? Do you believe it was possible that they lived together, at least the first years of their life in the U.S?
I found out that the real lastname of George (Amelia/Emilia’s husband) was Zammarchi
This is the 1930 census for them living in Antioch CA
1930 United States Federal Census
about George Zammarski
Name: George Zammarski
Home in 1930: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
View Map
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emilia
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Zammarski 44 capofamiglia,
Emilia Zammarski 43 moglie
Alice Zammarski 16 figlia
Alba Zammarski 11 figlia
found also:
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Elicia Zammarghi
Name: Elicia Zammarghi
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1914
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Baldini
Birth County: San Francisco
And:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Lena Bruna Cesa
Name: Lena Bruna Cesa
[Lena Bruna Mattie]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1904
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 30 Oct 1997
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Zammarkie
Father's Surname: Mattie
This woman I believe was the little daughter Bruna on the 1905 arrival manifest for Emilia and Giovanni Antonini
I know from Paola that Giovanni Antonini married his first wife Margherita Pennelli in Italy on 1894, his first son Primo was born on 1895. Margherita, died in Lucca (Italy – Tuscany region) on 1897 and Giovanni decided to leave his first and only son Primo to a rich family in Lucca were the boy had the chance for a better life…. Primo could study and became a surveyor… Unfortunately he died during the Second World War and Paola and his family don’t know much about Primo’s life and especially about Primo’s father’s life….
They know Giovanni Antonini married Emilia Baldini (his second wife) in the Piedmont Region, in the north of Italy on 1898…
From the arrival manifest we know they were living in Briga – Switzerland as last residence in europe….
I believe they were there as immigrants, to work in the mines or to work in the big construction of the “Sempione” tunnel between Italy and Switzerland were many Italians were working…
I saw on your tree that Felice Baldini had another son named Michele…. You wrote he died in a mine accident in switzerland….Could you please explain what do you know about this?
I noticed that also Emma, the first daughter of Alfredo and Elvira is listed as born in Switzerland on some census manifests… do you know if this is true?
The desire of Paola is to find Giovanni Antonini’s descendants… because Giovanni and Emila Baldini’s child (Frank, Mary and Lena/Bruna) were half-brother and half-sisters to his grandfather… maybe they never knew of this half-brother in Italy…
I found that Francesco Antonini (if the previous documents are correct) married a girl named Melba (I don’t know why he changed his last name using the last name of the second husband of his mother):
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Frank Mattie
Name: Frank Mattie
County: Contra Costa
State: California
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1900
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1530710
Nearest relative: Amelia Mattie, 111 Second street - Antioch California
1930 United States Federal Census
about Frank Mattie
Name: Frank Mattie
Home in 1930: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
View Map
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: New Hampshire
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mebba
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Mattie 30 head,
Mebba Mattie 29 wife
Marjorie Mattie 7 daughter
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Frank Mattie
Name: Frank Mattie
Social Security #:
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1900
Birthplace: New Hampshire
Death Date: 21 Jul 1967
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Baldini
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Melba M Mattie
Name: Melba M Mattie
[Melba M Scacchi]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1899
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 1 Apr 1982
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Puffo
Father's Surname: Scacchi.
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marjorie Mattie
Name: Marjorie Mattie
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1923
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Scacchi
Birth County: Contra Costa
I belive this is Bruna Antonini (then Mattie) the little child Bruna (4 months at the arrival in the U.S. on 1905)
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Lena Bruna Cesa
Name: Lena Bruna Cesa
[Lena Bruna Mattie]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1904
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 30 Oct 1997
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Zammarkie
Father's Surname: Mattie
I noticed on the 1910 census for your direct ancestors Alfredo and Elvira Dellero that they were living near a family Zammarchi …… Do you know if some of the Zammarchis married Elvira’s sister Emilia after her husband Giovanni Antonini died?
Ecco Paola ... questo è il riassunto di ciò che ho trovato finora.....
Spero che Thomas abbia qualcosa da aggiungere od a correggere... però stiamo arrivando...
Laura
Baldini Felice (born on 1856) his wife Clerice Camminati (born on 1855) and their child:
1. Claudia Baldini (female, born on 1890)
2. Ida Baldini (female, born on. 1893)
3. Florido Baldini (male born on 1895)
4. Verino Baldini (male, born on 1897)
5. Debora Baldini (female, born on 1899)
Them both arrived at the port of NYC on October 31, 1903. Last residence in Italy Sant’Arcangelo di Romagna – Rimini Province – Emilia Romagna Region
In the year 1910 Felice was living in Portsmouth New Hampshire
1910 United States Federal Census
about Falica Baldina
Name: Falica Baldina
[Faleca Baldina]
Age in 1910: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Clereice
Home in 1910: Portsmouth Ward 5, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1903
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Falica Baldina 54 capofamiglia,
Clereice Baldina 50 moglie
Ida Baldina 18 figlia
Florioto Baldina 15 figlio (Florido)
Florence Baldina 11 figlia (Debora)
Then , I found on your tree that Felice died on 1912….
His children:
1. Claudia Baldini
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
Southwest Europe
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Claudia Baldini
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 23 NOV 1890 Santacangelo, , , Italy
Christening:
Death: 02 MAR 1986 Contra Costa County, Antioch, Contra Costa, California
Burial: Holy Cross Cemetery
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Parents:
Father: Felice Baldini
Mother: Clerice Camminati
Here the censuses I found on ancestry.com:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Mauro Celice
Name: Mauro Celice (possible lastname was misspelled)
[Mauro Calice]
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Glaudia
Home in 1910: Portsmouth Ward 5, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1910
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mauro Celice 22 head
Glaudia Celice 20 wife
Laura Celice 20 sister
1930 United States Federal Census
about Mauro Calisesi
Name: Mauro Calisesi
Home in 1930: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
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Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Claudia
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mauro Calisesi 43 capofamiglia, sposato all'età di 23 anni, immigr. nel 1907
Claudia Calisesi 39 moglie, sposata all'età di 19 anni, immigr. nel 1905
Eros Calisesi 19 figlio, nato nel New Hampshire
Edmond Calisesi 18 , figlio, nato nel New Hampshire
Vergil Calisesi 9 , figlio, nato nel New Hampshire
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Claudia Calisesi
Name: Claudia Calisesi
[Claudia Baldini]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1890
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 2 Mar 1987
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Camminati
Father's Surname: Baldini
Her husband:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Mauro P Calisesi
Name: Mauro P Calisesi
Social Security
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 21 Jan 1964
Death Place: Contra Costa
2. Ida Baldini
????
3. Florido Baldini
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Florido Baldini
Name: Florido Baldini
County: Rockingham
State: New Hampshire
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1896
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1711854
DraftBoard: 2
He was living in Epping- Rockingham County - NH he was single, occupation Shoe maker.
1920 United States Federal Census
about Florio Baldini
Name: Florio Baldini
[Floris Baldini]
Home in 1920: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
Age: 24 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Josephine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1903
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 461
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Florio Baldini 24 capofamiglia, nato in IT, immigr. nel 1903
Josephine Baldini 22 moglie, nata nel New Hampshire da genitori italiani
Florido Baldini died on October 30, 1929
Link to the image: http://img35.imageshack.us/i/cade90baldin0.jpg/
4. Verino Baldini
????????
5. Debora / Florence Baldini
????????
On January 28, 1905 these two families landed in NYC:
Daltero? Alfredo (age 26, born on 1879) his wife Elvira Baldini (age 24, born on 1881) and their little daughter Emma (9 months, born on 1904)
Them both stated Faenza – Ravenna Province – Emilia Romagna Region as last residence in Italy.
And
Antonini Giovanni (age 37, born on 1868) his wife Emilia Baldini (age 22, born on 1883) and their child Francesco (age 4, born on 1901), twin sisters Maria and Rosa (age 2, born on 1903) and Bruna (4 months, born on 1904)
Them both stated Riga as last residence…. I suppose it was Riga in Switzerland
• Elvira Baldini
Military enlistment for the First World War for Alfredo:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Alfredo Dallero
Name: Alfredo Dallero
County: Rockingham
State: New Hampshire
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1878
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1711853
DraftBoard: 1
He was living in 93 Deer street.
Military Enlistment for the Second World War:
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Alfredo Dallero
Name: Alfredo Dallero
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1878
Birth Place: Alfonsini Di
Residence: Rockingham, New Hampshire
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2368017
On this document he stated he was born in Alfonsina di Romagna – Ravenna Province- Emilia Romagna Region…
He was living in 232 Deer street..
Thom, I believe the correct spell of Alfredo’s lastname was Dall’Ara/Dallari… in fact Dallero/Dal Lero doesn’t exist in Italy
1910 United States Federal Census
about Alfred Delero
Name: Alfred Delero
Age in 1910: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Portsmouth Ward 5, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Delero 32 head, born in IT
Alvina Delero 25 (Elvira) wife, born in IT
Emma Delero 7 daughter, born in Italy
Michelle Delero 5 son, born in Massachusetts
Bertrande Delero 3 son, born in Massachusetts
Lets Delero 2 daughter, born in Massachusetts
Leonado Procardio 22 boarder
address was 113 Russel street
1920 United States Federal Census
about Alphedo Dallew
Name: Alphedo Dallew
[Alpheda Dellow]
Home in 1920: Epping, Rockingham, New Hampshire
Age: 41 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Elvira
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1905
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 791
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alphedo Dallew 41 capofamiglia, nato in IT
Elvira Dallew 36 moglie, nata in IT
Emma Dallew 16 figlia, nata in Svizzera
Mickelena Dallew 14 figlia, nata in NH
Oberdan Dallew 12 figlio, nato in NH
Tena Dallew 10 figlia, nata in NH
Sarah Dallew 8 figlia, nata in NH
Larinda Dallew 6 figlia, nata in NH
Delmo Dallew 2 7/12 figlio, nato in NH
1930 United States Federal Census
about Alfredo Del Lero
Name: Alfredo Del Lero
Home in 1930: Portsmouth, Rockingham, New Hampshire
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Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Alvera
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfredo Del Lero 52 head, born in IT, married at the age of 21, year of immigr. 1905 - Shoemaker
Alvera Del Lero 48 wife, born in IT, married at the age of 17, year of immigr. 1905
Emma Angelides 26 daughter, born in Switzerland, year of immigr. 1905
Norma Carbone 24 daughter, born in New Hampshire
Armando D Del Lero 21 son, born in New Hampshire
Leada Del Lero 19 daughter, born in New Hampshire
Londa Del Lero 16 daughter, born in new Hampshire
Delmo Del Lero 14 son, born in new Hampshire
Louise Angelides 4 10/12 grand-daughter, born in Maine, place of birth of father Greece
• Emilia Baldini
Found out that Emilia/Amelia Baldini Antonini settled for first in Massachusetts:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Giovani Antonino
Name: Giovani Antonino
Age in 1910: 43
[42]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
[abt 1868]
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Melia
Home in 1910: Lawrence Ward 6, Essex, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1905
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Giovani Antonino 43 head, born in IT
[42]
Melia Antonino 27 wife, born in IT
Frank Antonino 10 son, born in IT
Mary Antonino 7 daughter, born in IT
Burns Antonino 6 daughter, born in IT
From this moment I found many difficulties finding them in subsequential censuses or ducuments….But…..
Giovanni and Emilia Antonini had another daughter in Massachusetts because I found this death certificate:
http://img205.imageshack.us/i/42831801551.jpg/
and possible one of the two twin sisters died…(Rosa Antonini)
After exentisve searches on Ancestry com I believe that maybe Giovanni Antonini died between 1910 and 1920, Emilia remarried another man and ended up in California following her sister Claudia Calisesi and brother Florido…
I know (from Paola) that Emilia was born on March 28, 1882 and married Giovanni Antonini on June 30, 1898 in Italy….
This is an interesting date I found:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Amelia Mattie
Name: Amelia Mattie
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 6 Apr 1964
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Baldini
I believe this is Emilia/Amelia Baldini (Elvira’s sister and Felice’s daughter
This is an interesting 1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census
about George Marttie
Name: George Marttie
[George Mattie]
Home in 1920: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
Age: 36 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ida An
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1890
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 457
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Marttie 36, head, born in Italy
Ida An Marttie 35 wife, born in IT
Mary Marttie 17 daughter, born in New York
Lena Marttie 15 daughter, born in Massachusetts
Alice Marttie 5 daughter, born in California
Alba Marttie 11/12 daughter, born in California
Frank Marttie 21 son, born in New York
Melba Marttie 19 son’s wife, born in California to Italian parents
Maybe Amelia/Emilia “cheated” on their child’s birth places…. However she was living in Massachusetts… Have you noticed that in the 1910 census for Alfredo and Elvira Dallero them both stated their first child were born in Massachusetts? Do you believe it was possible that they lived together, at least the first years of their life in the U.S?
I found out that the real lastname of George (Amelia/Emilia’s husband) was Zammarchi
This is the 1930 census for them living in Antioch CA
1930 United States Federal Census
about George Zammarski
Name: George Zammarski
Home in 1930: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
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Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emilia
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Zammarski 44 capofamiglia,
Emilia Zammarski 43 moglie
Alice Zammarski 16 figlia
Alba Zammarski 11 figlia
found also:
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Elicia Zammarghi
Name: Elicia Zammarghi
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1914
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Baldini
Birth County: San Francisco
And:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Lena Bruna Cesa
Name: Lena Bruna Cesa
[Lena Bruna Mattie]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1904
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 30 Oct 1997
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Zammarkie
Father's Surname: Mattie
This woman I believe was the little daughter Bruna on the 1905 arrival manifest for Emilia and Giovanni Antonini
I know from Paola that Giovanni Antonini married his first wife Margherita Pennelli in Italy on 1894, his first son Primo was born on 1895. Margherita, died in Lucca (Italy – Tuscany region) on 1897 and Giovanni decided to leave his first and only son Primo to a rich family in Lucca were the boy had the chance for a better life…. Primo could study and became a surveyor… Unfortunately he died during the Second World War and Paola and his family don’t know much about Primo’s life and especially about Primo’s father’s life….
They know Giovanni Antonini married Emilia Baldini (his second wife) in the Piedmont Region, in the north of Italy on 1898…
From the arrival manifest we know they were living in Briga – Switzerland as last residence in europe….
I believe they were there as immigrants, to work in the mines or to work in the big construction of the “Sempione” tunnel between Italy and Switzerland were many Italians were working…
I saw on your tree that Felice Baldini had another son named Michele…. You wrote he died in a mine accident in switzerland….Could you please explain what do you know about this?
I noticed that also Emma, the first daughter of Alfredo and Elvira is listed as born in Switzerland on some census manifests… do you know if this is true?
The desire of Paola is to find Giovanni Antonini’s descendants… because Giovanni and Emila Baldini’s child (Frank, Mary and Lena/Bruna) were half-brother and half-sisters to his grandfather… maybe they never knew of this half-brother in Italy…
I found that Francesco Antonini (if the previous documents are correct) married a girl named Melba (I don’t know why he changed his last name using the last name of the second husband of his mother):
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Frank Mattie
Name: Frank Mattie
County: Contra Costa
State: California
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1900
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1530710
Nearest relative: Amelia Mattie, 111 Second street - Antioch California
1930 United States Federal Census
about Frank Mattie
Name: Frank Mattie
Home in 1930: Antioch, Contra Costa, California
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Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: New Hampshire
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mebba
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Mattie 30 head,
Mebba Mattie 29 wife
Marjorie Mattie 7 daughter
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Frank Mattie
Name: Frank Mattie
Social Security #:
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1900
Birthplace: New Hampshire
Death Date: 21 Jul 1967
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Baldini
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Melba M Mattie
Name: Melba M Mattie
[Melba M Scacchi]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1899
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 1 Apr 1982
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Puffo
Father's Surname: Scacchi.
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marjorie Mattie
Name: Marjorie Mattie
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1923
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Scacchi
Birth County: Contra Costa
I belive this is Bruna Antonini (then Mattie) the little child Bruna (4 months at the arrival in the U.S. on 1905)
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Lena Bruna Cesa
Name: Lena Bruna Cesa
[Lena Bruna Mattie]
Social Security #:
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1904
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 30 Oct 1997
Death Place: Contra Costa
Mother's Maiden Name: Zammarkie
Father's Surname: Mattie
I noticed on the 1910 census for your direct ancestors Alfredo and Elvira Dellero that they were living near a family Zammarchi …… Do you know if some of the Zammarchis married Elvira’s sister Emilia after her husband Giovanni Antonini died?
Ecco Paola ... questo è il riassunto di ciò che ho trovato finora.....
Spero che Thomas abbia qualcosa da aggiungere od a correggere... però stiamo arrivando...

Laura