Italian girl and czech solider at the end of 1WW

[silvava]

Hallo everybody,
I am so happy, that I have found this forum. I hope that you can give mi some advice.

My ancestor "Oldrich Vavrous (born in 1899)" went to 1.WW and he got to Italy, Rome. It was almost the end of the war. He stayed there and worked for czechoslovakia mission and then for Rome consulate. He met an italian girl Terezia Reynerii and they got married and had a child in 1920. In 1923 Oldrich went back to the Czech Rebublic. I dont know, if his italian family went with him or not. In some records is written, that Terezie went to the czech republic too, but no other records about her and no records about child. In the year 1927 Oldrich had a child with czech woman.
I wonder where stayed Terezie and her child? Did she went back to Italy? Were they really married? Did they really have a child in 1920? Is there any posibility how to find it out? I have really not enough facts . The only one think I know is, that Terezie Reynerii was born 17.1.1902 in Torino and that Oldrich Vavrous worked for Rome Consulate.
I tried to search baptism of Terezie at familysearch, but was not succesfull. Torino is quite big and the year 1902 is not available, I think. The same is it with the marriage and birth of the child. I suppose it was in Rome, but it is also so big city.
Please, do you have any idea where to search? I would be so grateful. I have tried Rome consulate, but they have no records about marriages.

Thank you so much, Silvie from the Czech Republic

[cannella55]

Penso che intanto la ragazza si chiamasse Teresa Raineri e con questo cognome dovresti cercare.Di quali documenti parli in cui è scritto che Teresa andò nella Repubblica Ceca?
Torino come città di nascita dove è scritto? Se fosse davvero Torino, in Comune avrebbero la sua nascita.

[ziadani]

Prova a chiedere la copia integrale dell'atto di nascita di Teresa all'Archivio dello Stato Civile di Torino

Sede dell’Archivio di stato civile
Via della Consolata, 23 – piano interrato
Orario: dal lunedì al giovedì: 8.15 – 15.00/ il venerdì dalle 8.15 alle 13.50 (come gli sportelli anagrafici)
Telefono: 011/01125396 – 011/01125621 - 011/01125331
E-mail: archiviostatocivile@comune.torino.it

In alternativa puoi recarti presso un Centro di Storia Famigliare legato alla Chiesa Mormone e consultare gli atti di nascita di Torino, visibili solo presso questi Centri.

https://www.familysearch.org/locations/#

Puoi provare a telefonare.

[gvvcc]

Penso che intanto la ragazza si chiamasse Teresa Raineri e con questo cognome dovresti cercare.Di quali documenti parli in cui è scritto che Teresa andò nella Repubblica Ceca?
Torino come città di nascita dove è scritto? Se fosse davvero Torino, in Comune avrebbero la sua nascita.

Per quanto è possibile che is tratti di un errore di trascrizione, il cognome Reyneri esiste, vi è anche una nobile famiglia con questo nome (Reyneri, conti di Lagnasco).

Anche nella Torino della fine dell’Ottocento risultano essere nati alcuni Reyneri, tra cui una Teresa (nata l’11 Novembre 1897, da Michele e Domenica Civera).

[cannella55]

La mia era solo un'ipotesi,visto come era stato scritto Teresa.

[gmoccaldi]

Hello Silvie,
I've found their marriage record, on Oct 6th, 1920, in Roma:

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 2.jpg.html

[silvava]

Hallo everybody,
thank you for helping me! I appreciate it very much.

cannella55:
I will try to add the record I have about Teresia Reyneri. It is a record in the book of inhabitants of the town Louny, Czech Republic. "Manž." means wife. The meaning of red text is that Oldrich and his wife Terezie have moved from Louny to Prague in 1941. It is nonsence because at that time Oldrich already had another family. And the short text right up means that they got passports in Italy.




ziadani:
I will try to contact archivio. Thank you for details.

Yes, there may be mistake in spelling... Reineri, Reyneri, Reynerii...

gvvcc:
Thank you for searching surname Reyneri. Is it common surname in Torino?


Please, which institution should I ask about the wedding in Roma about 1920?

Thank you so much, Silvie.

[silvava]

Hello Silvie,
I've found their marriage record, on Oct 6th, 1920, in Roma:

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 2.jpg.html

Oh thank you so much!

[gmoccaldi]

From here on:

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 8.jpg.html

you'll find the documents provided for the marriage (click on "successivo" to see next images)
Certificate of banns;
a certificate stating Oldrich could marry;
the consent of his parents;
Teresa's birth certificate from Torino
and the registry office card of her father.

[gmoccaldi]

Here are the banns:

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 0.jpg.html

[silvava]

From here on:

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 8.jpg.html

you'll find the documents provided for the marriage (click on "successivo" to see next images)
Certificate of banns;
a certificate stating Oldrich could marry;
the consent of his parents;
Teresa's birth certificate from Torino
and the registry office card of her father.

Thank you very much! It is amazing, that so many document is possible to see online. I am so touched, there are signatures of my great-great grandparents I havent seen before. Oh I am so happy!

[gmoccaldi]

I'm very glad to have helped!!

[silvava]

I'm very glad to have helped!!

I would like to offer help if somebody needs anything genealogical from the Czech Republic. Is there such a place, in this forum?