Buongiorno a tutti.
Mio nonno mi raccontava sempre che, quando era piccolo, parlava con suo nonno Luigi Gionco (mio trisavolo), il quale gli raccontava di avere fatto il servizio militare a Vienna.
Da anni sto cercando riscontri su questa notizia di famiglia, ma senza successo.
Luigi Gionco era nato a Breda di Piave (TV) nel 1848 e abitò sempre in zona. Non ho informazioni precise su dove abitasse la famiglia ogni anno (si spostavano spesso), ma lo trovo residente a Carbonera (TV) nel 1873, al momento del suo matrimonio.
Nel 1848 il territorio si trovava sotto il Regno Lombardo-Veneto, ma questo territorio passò al Regno d'Italia nel 1866, dopo la Terza Guerra d'Indipendenza.
Ora, secondo quanto risulta da Wikipedia (la pagina in tedesco fornisce informazioni più dettagliate)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiserlic ... 80%931867)
il servizio di leva nell'esercito austriaco si faceva fra i 19 e i 42 anni.
[Wehrtauglichkeitsalter: 19 bis 42 Jahre (1867)]
Inoltre il servizio militare riguardava o i volontari o alcune persone estratte a sorte.
Il mio trisavolo nel 1866 aveva 18 anni, troppo giovane per fare il servizio militare nell'esercito austriaco.
Quindi non riesco a spiegare il racconto di mio nonno, perché, in considerazione dell'età, Luigi avrebbe dovuto fare il servizio militare nel 1867 o 1868 nell'esercito italiano e non a Vienna nell'esercito austriaco.
Non ho idea di dove cercare informazioni.
Ho chiesto all'archivio di stato austriaco a Vienna. Hanno gli elenchi dei soldati del 1866, ma senza precisare il battoglione, non sono in grado di fare delle ricerche.
Ed io, ovviamente, non posso sapere quale fosse il battaglione.
Qualcuno è in grado di aiutarmi?
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Re: Servizio militare a Vienna
ho ricevuto questa email
speriamo ti possa servire
ciao
Vincenzo
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Vienna, August 16, 2021
What’s new on GenTeam
1 Military: Austro-Hungarian casualty lists 1914-1919
2 Passau: Index of Roman Catholic church records
3 Vienna: Roman Catholic baptisms
4 Vienna: Roman Catholic burials
5 Vienna: Coroner records
6 Lower Austria: Seigniorial indices
7 Indices of Roman Catholic church registers for Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Styria, Tyrol and Salzburg as well as Moravia
A brief overview of the information available on GenTeam:
Comprehensive gazetteer of
Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia and South Tyrol
with parish affiliations, archival districts and links to the archives
Data from
Vienna, Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Burgenland, Salzburg, Tyrol, Styria, Carinthia, Vorarlberg, Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Germany
Austro-Hungarian casualty lists 1914-1919
Dear researchers,
About this update
In May 2021, GenTeam was chosen as the fifth best European genealogy database by the renowned familytree magazine.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has provided GenTeam with data or has contributed to long-term projects over the past 11 years, and all those who have been working behind the scenes to ensure that GenTeam functions properly and continues to expand.
GenTeam is a European platform connecting historians and genealogists who work on their own or in teams to provide researchers all over the world with information from their databases. On GenTeam, all record details are available entirely and free of charge. Using this site requires no membership fee.
GenTeam is and will remain free of charge!
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Details on this update
1 Military – Austro-Hungarian casualty lists of World War I 1914 - 1919
Once again, numerous lists and parts of lists have been put online.
The casualty lists enumerate the wounded and killed soldiers as well as the prisoners of war of all Crown Lands of the Habsburg monarchy. In their entirety, these lists will hold approximately 3 to 3.5 million names. They include officers and one-year volunteers, but also subordinated military personnel of all denominations, including Jewish, Muslim and Protestant soldiers.
Sincere thanks to all those who have contributed to this important database, all those who are already working on further lists, as well as Frank Raschka for managing this project.
I would like to invite you to participate in this fascinating project. If you are interested, please contact the project manager Frank Raschka at verlustliste@gmail.com or kontakt@GenTeam.at. We will then send you a sample entry table and assign you a list number.
2 Diocese of Passau
Project completed for the time being
The overall number of approximately 4.4 million records from the Diocese of Passau comprises about 440,000 marriages (complete) and about 2 million baptisms. The remaining records are burials.
This database contains information on the parish, volume, page, last name, first name(s) and date/year. In some cases, the occupation and the address/town are also indicated. You can access the church records of the Diocese of Passau at www.matricula-online.eu. For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
The Archive of the Diocese of Passau and GenTeam would like to sincerely thank those who have provided these new records!
3 Vienna – Roman Catholic baptisms 1595 - 1920
A large number of records have been added for the parishes of 03 Landstraße, 08 Alservorstadt, 08 Gebäranstalt (Alservorstadt Krankenhaus), 10 St. Johann Evangelist, 11 Altsimmering, 15 Reindorf, 16 Altottakring, 18 Währing and 20 St. Brigitta. The numbers indicate the respective district of Vienna.
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
I would like to sincerely thank Karin Fleisch, Debbie Kaska, Gabi Koller, Monika Kronberger, Cindy Lindau, Marta Melchart, Georgine Nitsch, Marco Puhr, Ingrid Schuh, Franz Spevacek and Judith Starke!
4 Vienna – Roman Catholic burials 1600 - 1938
Records have been added for the parishes of 02 St. Johann Nepomuk and 18 Währing.
I would like to sincerely thank Monika Fischer and Marta Melchart!
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
5 Vienna – Coroner records from the year 1648 onwards
Coroner records for the period between and 1662 and 1666 have been added to the collection of records for the years 1648 – 1662 which have already been online.
I would like to sincerely thank Marta Melchart!
6 Seigniorial indices
Records have been added for the estates of Asparn Herrschaft, Asparn Minoritenkloster, Walterskirchen and Pernegg, all of them in Lower Austria.
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
I would like to sincerely thank MR Johann Frank!
7 Indices of Roman Catholic church registers for Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Styria, Salzburg and Tyrol as well as Moravia 1585 - 1940
Records have been added for the following Roman Catholic parishes:
Lower Austria:
Hanfthal, Kapelln, Maria Dreieichen, Mistelbach, Muthmannsdorf, Ringelsdorf, Ruprechtshofen, Schweiggers, Senftenberg, Spital bei Weitra, Staatz, Stockerau, Straß im Straßertale, Waldhausen, Wildendürnbach, Unserfrau, Zwettl Stift
Upper Austria:
Alkoven, Bad Ischl, Buchkirchen, Freinberg, Haag, Hörsching, Meggenhofen, Neuhofen an der Krems, Schönering, Wels Vorstadt, Wels Neustadt, Wels Stadt
Styria:
Dechantskirchen, Grafendorf, Graz Dom, Graz Graben, Graz unbefleckte Empfängnis, Nestelbach, Schäffern, Übelbach, Wies
Salzburg:
Anthering, Berndorf, Dorfbeuern, Franking, Großarl, Koppl, Moosdorf
Tyrol:
Obernberg, Steinach am Brenner
Moravia:
Kutscherau, Schönau, Teltsch, Waltersdorf
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
I would like to sincerely thank Ursula Baldemaier, Wolfgang Berner, Gunar Bertolli, Frank Datatschek, Reinhard Eberl, Johann Frank, Florian Gasser, Dominik Glatzl, Christian Hauer, Heinz Himmelbauer, Angela Homolka, Josef Kölbl, Andreas Korzinek, Michael Kraibacher, Adolf Leutgeb, Andreas Lindinger, Loidl Almuth Andrea BA, Marta Melchart, Margit Pömer, Erwin Rohrmoser, Mag. Gabi Rudinger Ferger, Angelika Schmidt, Johanna Sedgwick, Isabella Spari, Erich Steinerberger, Ursula Stiermayr, Josef Strasser, Ing. Manuela Taibl, Mag. Christian Tobolka, Dr. Christian Wagnsonner, Mag. Günther Wenth, Wolfgang Zehetner and Werner Zinser, as well as all those who are already working on further indices.
We would be particularly pleased if you would also like to contribute to GenTeam by creating a database or providing one you have already finished. Whether you are fluent in reading Kurrent or prefer to create an index based on a source written with a typewriter or in Latin letters: There is something for everyone! We look forward to your participation.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
I wish you all the best for your research with GenTeam and the new records!
With best regards,
Felix Gundacker
Prof. Ing. Felix Gundacker
Pantzergasse 30/8
A-1190 Vienna
Phone: +43 676 40 11 059
www.GenTeam.eu
“Connecting genealogists“
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speriamo ti possa servire
ciao
Vincenzo
----Messaggio originale----
Da: email@GenTeam.at
Data: 16-ago-2021 19.26
A: <email@genteam.at>
Ogg: www.GenTeam.eu - August 2021: Approximately 475,000 new records online
www.GenTeam.eu - August 2021: Approximately 475,000 new records online
Please feel free to forward this information to Internet forums and lists. Thank you!
Vienna, August 16, 2021
What’s new on GenTeam
1 Military: Austro-Hungarian casualty lists 1914-1919
2 Passau: Index of Roman Catholic church records
3 Vienna: Roman Catholic baptisms
4 Vienna: Roman Catholic burials
5 Vienna: Coroner records
6 Lower Austria: Seigniorial indices
7 Indices of Roman Catholic church registers for Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Styria, Tyrol and Salzburg as well as Moravia
A brief overview of the information available on GenTeam:
Comprehensive gazetteer of
Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia and South Tyrol
with parish affiliations, archival districts and links to the archives
Data from
Vienna, Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Burgenland, Salzburg, Tyrol, Styria, Carinthia, Vorarlberg, Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Germany
Austro-Hungarian casualty lists 1914-1919
Dear researchers,
About this update
In May 2021, GenTeam was chosen as the fifth best European genealogy database by the renowned familytree magazine.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has provided GenTeam with data or has contributed to long-term projects over the past 11 years, and all those who have been working behind the scenes to ensure that GenTeam functions properly and continues to expand.
GenTeam is a European platform connecting historians and genealogists who work on their own or in teams to provide researchers all over the world with information from their databases. On GenTeam, all record details are available entirely and free of charge. Using this site requires no membership fee.
GenTeam is and will remain free of charge!
Information on all previous updates is available on GenTeam’s Facebook page www.facebook.com/GenTeam.Die.genealogische.Datenbank.
Details on this update
1 Military – Austro-Hungarian casualty lists of World War I 1914 - 1919
Once again, numerous lists and parts of lists have been put online.
The casualty lists enumerate the wounded and killed soldiers as well as the prisoners of war of all Crown Lands of the Habsburg monarchy. In their entirety, these lists will hold approximately 3 to 3.5 million names. They include officers and one-year volunteers, but also subordinated military personnel of all denominations, including Jewish, Muslim and Protestant soldiers.
Sincere thanks to all those who have contributed to this important database, all those who are already working on further lists, as well as Frank Raschka for managing this project.
I would like to invite you to participate in this fascinating project. If you are interested, please contact the project manager Frank Raschka at verlustliste@gmail.com or kontakt@GenTeam.at. We will then send you a sample entry table and assign you a list number.
2 Diocese of Passau
Project completed for the time being
The overall number of approximately 4.4 million records from the Diocese of Passau comprises about 440,000 marriages (complete) and about 2 million baptisms. The remaining records are burials.
This database contains information on the parish, volume, page, last name, first name(s) and date/year. In some cases, the occupation and the address/town are also indicated. You can access the church records of the Diocese of Passau at www.matricula-online.eu. For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
The Archive of the Diocese of Passau and GenTeam would like to sincerely thank those who have provided these new records!
3 Vienna – Roman Catholic baptisms 1595 - 1920
A large number of records have been added for the parishes of 03 Landstraße, 08 Alservorstadt, 08 Gebäranstalt (Alservorstadt Krankenhaus), 10 St. Johann Evangelist, 11 Altsimmering, 15 Reindorf, 16 Altottakring, 18 Währing and 20 St. Brigitta. The numbers indicate the respective district of Vienna.
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
I would like to sincerely thank Karin Fleisch, Debbie Kaska, Gabi Koller, Monika Kronberger, Cindy Lindau, Marta Melchart, Georgine Nitsch, Marco Puhr, Ingrid Schuh, Franz Spevacek and Judith Starke!
4 Vienna – Roman Catholic burials 1600 - 1938
Records have been added for the parishes of 02 St. Johann Nepomuk and 18 Währing.
I would like to sincerely thank Monika Fischer and Marta Melchart!
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
5 Vienna – Coroner records from the year 1648 onwards
Coroner records for the period between and 1662 and 1666 have been added to the collection of records for the years 1648 – 1662 which have already been online.
I would like to sincerely thank Marta Melchart!
6 Seigniorial indices
Records have been added for the estates of Asparn Herrschaft, Asparn Minoritenkloster, Walterskirchen and Pernegg, all of them in Lower Austria.
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
I would like to sincerely thank MR Johann Frank!
7 Indices of Roman Catholic church registers for Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Styria, Salzburg and Tyrol as well as Moravia 1585 - 1940
Records have been added for the following Roman Catholic parishes:
Lower Austria:
Hanfthal, Kapelln, Maria Dreieichen, Mistelbach, Muthmannsdorf, Ringelsdorf, Ruprechtshofen, Schweiggers, Senftenberg, Spital bei Weitra, Staatz, Stockerau, Straß im Straßertale, Waldhausen, Wildendürnbach, Unserfrau, Zwettl Stift
Upper Austria:
Alkoven, Bad Ischl, Buchkirchen, Freinberg, Haag, Hörsching, Meggenhofen, Neuhofen an der Krems, Schönering, Wels Vorstadt, Wels Neustadt, Wels Stadt
Styria:
Dechantskirchen, Grafendorf, Graz Dom, Graz Graben, Graz unbefleckte Empfängnis, Nestelbach, Schäffern, Übelbach, Wies
Salzburg:
Anthering, Berndorf, Dorfbeuern, Franking, Großarl, Koppl, Moosdorf
Tyrol:
Obernberg, Steinach am Brenner
Moravia:
Kutscherau, Schönau, Teltsch, Waltersdorf
For a list of the available parishes and their respective periods as well as further important information on this database, click the green Help/Info button in the top right corner of the GenTeam website.
I would like to sincerely thank Ursula Baldemaier, Wolfgang Berner, Gunar Bertolli, Frank Datatschek, Reinhard Eberl, Johann Frank, Florian Gasser, Dominik Glatzl, Christian Hauer, Heinz Himmelbauer, Angela Homolka, Josef Kölbl, Andreas Korzinek, Michael Kraibacher, Adolf Leutgeb, Andreas Lindinger, Loidl Almuth Andrea BA, Marta Melchart, Margit Pömer, Erwin Rohrmoser, Mag. Gabi Rudinger Ferger, Angelika Schmidt, Johanna Sedgwick, Isabella Spari, Erich Steinerberger, Ursula Stiermayr, Josef Strasser, Ing. Manuela Taibl, Mag. Christian Tobolka, Dr. Christian Wagnsonner, Mag. Günther Wenth, Wolfgang Zehetner and Werner Zinser, as well as all those who are already working on further indices.
We would be particularly pleased if you would also like to contribute to GenTeam by creating a database or providing one you have already finished. Whether you are fluent in reading Kurrent or prefer to create an index based on a source written with a typewriter or in Latin letters: There is something for everyone! We look forward to your participation.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
I wish you all the best for your research with GenTeam and the new records!
With best regards,
Felix Gundacker
Prof. Ing. Felix Gundacker
Pantzergasse 30/8
A-1190 Vienna
Phone: +43 676 40 11 059
www.GenTeam.eu
“Connecting genealogists“
If you do not wish to receive any further communications from GenTeam, please send a short email message with the subject “Unsubscribe” to kontakt@GenTeam.at. Thank you!
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Re: Servizio militare a Vienna
nelle mie ricerche a padova ho trovato il fondo delle liste di leva preunitarie, potresti vedere se a Treviso hanno qualcosa di analogo.
quella lista, se ricordo bene, era fatta dai parroci e passata al comune, quindi potresti anche cercare all'archivio storico del comune (dei comuni visto che ha girato parecchio).
ciao
Vincenzo
quella lista, se ricordo bene, era fatta dai parroci e passata al comune, quindi potresti anche cercare all'archivio storico del comune (dei comuni visto che ha girato parecchio).
ciao
Vincenzo
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Re: Servizio militare a Vienna
Sarei molto interessato. Puoi dirci qualcosa di più? Dove l'hai trovato? Riguarda tutti i Comuni? A che anni si riferisce?Vincenzo50 ha scritto: ↑martedì 24 agosto 2021, 20:47nelle mie ricerche a padova ho trovato il fondo delle liste di leva preunitarie
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Vincenzo50
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adesso cerco l'inventario che ho fatto e poi ti dico
ciao
Vincenzo
ciao
Vincenzo
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da qui, mio dropbox, puoi scaricare l'elenco: sono due files con ordinamento diverso
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gw5aq43iwk7u ... yDRSa?dl=0
a metà settembre andrò a Padova , se hai delle domande vedo cosa posso fare.
ciao
Vincenzo
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gw5aq43iwk7u ... yDRSa?dl=0
a metà settembre andrò a Padova , se hai delle domande vedo cosa posso fare.
ciao
Vincenzo
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Re: Servizio militare a Vienna
Da quanto leggo, l'arruolamento avveniva nel capoluogo di provincia.
Nel caso del mio antenato Luigi, quindi, è possibile che i dati si trovino in qualche archivio del comune di Treviso.
O presso quale altro ente?
Nel caso del mio antenato Luigi, quindi, è possibile che i dati si trovino in qualche archivio del comune di Treviso.
O presso quale altro ente?